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2008/05/12 03:02:05 (permalink)
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Epi hair loss

Hello,

Im currently finishing week two of a six week 75mg h-drol cycle. I've got some epi and want to add it in for a lil extra size. I was gonna pulse 30mg three times a week but was told thats useless and i need to do a full blown cycle at 30mg alongside the h-drol.

My questions are: Is it true that the hairloss occurs only after three weeks of taking Epi. If so I should be fine to add it in for three weeks?

Secondly: at only 190lbs would it be safe to raise the dose on H-drol to 100mg? Im looking to put on as much size as possible before going on ECA and a cut.

Thanks,

Joe.
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    RE: Epi hair loss 2008/05/12 10:18:42 (permalink)
    Hi Joe

    Where did you get the idea that epi gives hairloss at 3 weeks?

    IMO hairloss on cycle is a paranoia thing, have a read through many many cycle logs on MT and you'll see that hairloss does not come up a great deal in reality. The only place you'll see it mentioned regularly is on US boards where they all seem to get hairloss or gyno symptoms.

    Whilst understandable that many men are rather attached to their locks and indeed have insecurity issues around losing their hair, it is a fact that you are either genetically predisposed to MPB or not. I've had a rather large M profile to my hairline since late teens and a thinning patch at the back, never bothered me and no cycle has ever accelerated it, including epi for significantly longer than 3 weeks! Most steroids theoretically have a potential to increase hairloss due to androgenicity but in reality I'd suggest it is an overstated risk usually propagated by thos most worried about their own hirsutism.

    A useful ancillary to run alongside a cycle if you're concerned about hairloss is saw palmetto which inhibits production of DHT, the hormone responsible.(rather usefully it also aids the prostrate)

    If me, I'd run epi alongside your h-drol at 30mg ed for the last 4 weeks of cycle if you're after more size.

    In response to your other question though mate, I'm a similar weight and would be happy to run h-drol at 100mg.

    And don't worry about the hair
    post edited by Celt - 2008/05/12 10:20:35
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    Taz
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    RE: Epi hair loss 2008/05/12 13:14:57 (permalink)
    I was prob the most paranoid MT member ever re hairline. But now I am running M5-AA which is pure DHT but guess what I still have my hair lol!!!!!!!

    As celt says don’t worry about hair and 30mg ed for the last 4 weeks will be awesome.
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    RE: Epi hair loss 2008/05/12 13:43:15 (permalink)
    Don't know where you got the 3 weeks notion from, but in those that are MPB prone, then epi could cause hairloss/thinning

    But now I am running M5-AA which is pure DHT but guess what I still have my hair lol!!!!!!!


    Then you are obviously not prone to MPB, lucky bugger



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    RE: Epi hair loss 2008/05/12 17:15:11 (permalink)


    Hey Adil my PP cycle is going well. Im growing well with a 8lb bw increase although a good amount I feel could be water due to the speed in which it went on.

    Strenght is increasing nicely too and Im hoping to get 130 on bench this week so fingers crossed.
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    RE: Epi hair loss 2008/05/12 18:55:40 (permalink)
    Good stuff.

    How long have you been on the PP?
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    RE: Epi hair loss 2008/05/12 19:29:43 (permalink)
    Iv been on for 2 weeks now and I upped it to 45mg ed yesterday.
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    RE: Epi hair loss 2008/05/12 20:29:10 (permalink)
    8lb in 2 weeks....your assumption must therefore be correct, you are carrying water
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    RE: Epi hair loss 2008/05/12 21:17:14 (permalink)
    Aye.

    Im hoping the M5-AA will help with this but I wont know for sure what my gains are till after PCT so a long way off yet and plenty of supps to come to ensure it’s a good cycle.
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    RE: Epi hair loss 2008/05/12 21:32:59 (permalink)
    good advice so far, teh 3 weeks thing is rubbish but it could as with most steroids temporaily speed up mpb, this effect if you get it is temporary though and very minimal, the usual shedding rate returns to normal very shortly after the cycle finishes.

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    RE: Epi hair loss 2008/05/13 02:19:22 (permalink)
    Ok so i think im gonna up the h-drol to 100mg ed for the last four weeks and add in epi for the last four weeks at 30mg ed. BTW this is my first cycle, does this make any difference?
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    RE: Epi hair loss 2008/05/13 07:50:20 (permalink)
    It does and it don’t.

    Its all about tolerances and experience of knowing what does what.

    My first cycle consisted of 1 bottle of epi, 1 bottle of M-Dien and 2 bottles of Methxoy Tren. I am pleased I went down this route as gave the kinds of gains I wanted.

    You need to decide if you need to go yup to that dose to get results you want and only you can know if you can tolerate the higher dose.
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