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Epi or test enth?

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2009/07/16 00:58:19 (permalink)

Epi or test enth?

So I have finally managed to find a source for nolva and basically anything I want so..... after my cut and holiday I plan to do my first cycle. Had decided on epi but now with this new source I'm considering the AAS route, and don't think I would have a problem with jabbing.

Really looking for leanish gains, don't care about strength. I have thinning hair but without trying a DS/AAS I guess I won't know how it will effect me. 

How do typical test gains compare with epi over the total cycle?

Which would you choose, epi or test for a first cycle?

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    Re:Epi or test enth? 2009/07/16 10:24:37 (permalink)
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    Which would you choose, epi or test for a first cycle?



    I would choose
    Test - 10 or 12 weeks @ 250mg e5d
    plus
    Epi as kickstarter - 6 weeks @ 30mg ed



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    Re:Epi or test enth? 2009/07/16 10:36:39 (permalink)
    2 compounds for a first cycle?

    Also not seen this stack before during my research. Epi takes 4 weeks (apparently) before it starts to kick in so is it really a good kick starter?




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    Re:Epi or test enth? 2009/07/16 10:46:21 (permalink)
    I had already ran several DS cycles before I did my first Test cycle so fair enough, you may be best advised to try Test alone first.

    But be aware, it may take 6-8 weeks to kick in properly (it actually starts working immediately but you might not feel strength gains until several weeks in).

    There are several ways to go about this, frontloading or kickstarting which I'm sure you've read up on.

    tbh, Hdrol @ 50-75mg ed for 6 weeks is a great kickstarter for a test cycle and I would recommend this even to a first-timer.



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    Re:Epi or test enth? 2009/07/16 11:32:00 (permalink)
    Ok worth considering, epi or Hdrol as a kickstart since they are similar(ish) and epi is the standard 1st DS cycle. Still not 100% sure on 2 compounds as won't know which is f*cking me up if I get sides.

    Maybe Test with proviron on hand for bloat. should be at 9% bf when I come back from hol assuming I don't pack too much on. Aiming to go away at 7-8%.

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    Re:Epi or test enth? 2009/07/16 11:58:30 (permalink)
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      Still not 100% sure on 2 compounds as won't know which is f*cking me up if I get sides.

    Maybe Test with proviron on hand for bloat.


    but you contradict yourself, Prov is also an AAS. And tbh I dont think its really necessary for a first cycle with a relatively low test dose. Besides, bloat (or water retention) has a lot to do with diet.



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    Re:Epi or test enth? 2009/07/16 12:20:07 (permalink)
    Didn't think prov was anabolic, just an androgen and acts as an antiaromatase and used at very low does alongside test.

    Either way in terms of diet is test a carb hungry diet like SD or just a case of eating big? High water intake to control bloat and what in terms of diet?

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