I can tell you know how to diet so that's good.
If you're under 21 than you shouldn't consider it yet.
Epistane is a very good designer-steroid for maintaining or even gaining muscle in a deficit.
Dont use the tren. For first time use prohormone tren is a bad choice. It has some progesterone sides which may include not able to come, or much slower and lactating nipples. You can better up the epistane dose abit instead of adding tren.
I used epistane with a 700 calorie deficit and went from 194 and 11% to 198 pounds 7% in 6 weeks time/
After post cycle therapy I managed to keep 196 at 8%. Post cycle therapy is used to stimulate your HTPA production and recover and thus starting your test production faster. Also I used hcg on cycle to keep the testicles running.
When you're on something as surpressive as epistane your balls can shrink very fast, hcg combats this problem and also helps with better recovery. Also hcg makes your balls produce testosterone indirectly. 1000 iu equals about 100mg of test. 40-70mg is what humans normalle produce.
To keep it short.
Take epistane 6 weeks. Cycle like 30-45-45-45-45-45mg is what you can think of
Get yourself serms(post cycle therapy). Clomid is a better choice than nolvadex. 3 weeks pct of 50-25-25mg
To keep normal test function, to get a test base above naturally possible, recover even better, having higher test(more gains) take HCG!: 2x500iu per week in week 3,4,5. (3000 iu total)
If you have any questions just ask me.
post edited by Sandoz - 2017/03/16 19:09:52