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2017/03/15 11:26:56 (permalink)

Epistane / Tren stack help

Hey Guys,
 
I've been lifting since i was 16 and decided I'm going to try an EPI & Then stack. My friend in the royal marines used a EPI stack and he went ****ing massive. So I've decided I'm going to give it a go, just wanted some advice because I've got 0 idea what I'm doing.
 
Current Stats:
Age 25
Weight 185lbs
Height 172cm
Bodyfat 15% ish
 
Bench 1RM 130kg
Squat 1RM 150kg
Deadlift 1RM 180kg
OHP 1RM 87.5
 
I'm currently on 2615 kcals running at -15% because I'm trying to drop body fat. 
 
Training split is;
 
push/pull/legs/off 
 
2-4 sessions of cardio per week depending on weight loss at the end of the week.
 
I'm not trying to get bigger or stronger, just want to get more ripped a little faster and maintain size.
 
So if these are the wrong products please let me know, also don't know much about what post cycle I need to run.
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Re: Epistane / Tren stack help 2017/03/16 19:06:21 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby spimlott 2017/03/20 16:31:09
Hey man.
I can tell you know how to diet so that's good.
If you're under 21 than you shouldn't consider it yet.
Epistane is a very good designer-steroid for maintaining or even gaining muscle in a deficit.
Dont use the tren. For first time use prohormone tren is a bad choice. It has some progesterone sides which may include not able to come, or much slower and lactating nipples. You can better up the epistane dose abit instead of adding tren.
 
I used epistane with a 700 calorie deficit and went from 194 and 11% to 198 pounds 7% in 6 weeks time/
After post cycle therapy I managed to keep 196 at 8%. Post cycle therapy is used to stimulate your HTPA production and recover and thus starting your test production faster. Also I used hcg on cycle to keep the testicles running.
When you're on something as surpressive as epistane your balls can shrink very fast, hcg combats this problem and also helps with better recovery. Also hcg makes your balls produce testosterone indirectly. 1000 iu equals about 100mg of test. 40-70mg is what humans normalle produce.
 
To keep it short.
Take epistane 6 weeks. Cycle like 30-45-45-45-45-45mg is what you can think of
Get yourself serms(post cycle therapy). Clomid is a better choice than nolvadex. 3 weeks pct of 50-25-25mg
To keep normal test function, to get a test base above naturally possible, recover even better, having higher test(more gains) take HCG!: 2x500iu per week in week 3,4,5. (3000 iu total)
 
If you have any questions just ask me.
 
post edited by Sandoz - 2017/03/16 19:09:52
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Re: Epistane / Tren stack help 2017/03/20 16:32:56 (permalink)
Whats HCG? And did you run this post cycle or with your cycle?
 
So at the moment, I'm looking at running EPI 30,45,45,45,45,45 then 3 weeks PCT?
 
And shall i keep my training the same? 
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Re: Epistane / Tren stack help 2017/03/20 16:33:22 (permalink)
Whats HCG? And did you run this post cycle or with your cycle?
 
So at the moment, I'm looking at running EPI 30,45,45,45,45,45 then 3 weeks PCT?
 
And shall i keep my training the same? 
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Re: Epistane / Tren stack help 2017/03/20 18:54:38 (permalink)
HCG =Human Chorionic Gonadotropin 
This is the name of a substance that is used to make your balls produce testosterone. In women it has a different function than what male bb'ers use it for ;)
This prevents shrinkage of the testicles till a certain degree and you have a test base.
When taking only epistane you get surpressed, and produce less testosterone and get very tired because of it.
 
Hcg can be injected with an insuline needle subcutan. Places people inject are ussually in the belly fat or in the fat at the knee(just google the method). You don't feel anything of it, I promise! It's an illegal substance that is needed just like clomid.
HCG must only be run ON CYCLE. Start injecting it in week 3,4 and 5!. 2x500 iu per week.
Once you start clomid youve not injected for a week already. (There are people that promote HCG on cycle. But there are mixed opinion about it.)
 
Pct is indeed 3 weeks!
You start with one week clomid on 50mg then 2 weeks on 25mg.
 
Good luck with your cycle man.
 
I guided many people with their epistane cycles. And till this day its my favorite cycle! Will be doing this exact cycle in 2 months!
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Re: Epistane / Tren stack help 2017/04/11 21:06:04 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby simonboyle 2017/06/01 10:40:05
General consensus is to run 4-6 weeks of nolva @20mg PCT.
 
Always worked for me
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Re: Epistane / Tren stack help 2017/04/14 15:30:36 (permalink)
I don't see any point in the tren
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Re: Epistane / Tren stack help 2017/05/19 19:54:32 (permalink)
Can you do the cycle without injections? I'm thinking of running a epi cycle, just need more information, as I don't want to **** it up
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Re: Epistane / Tren stack help 2017/06/01 10:40:21 (permalink)
Sandoz
HCG =Human Chorionic Gonadotropin 
This is the name of a substance that is used to make your balls produce testosterone. In women it has a different function than what male bb'ers use it for ;)
This prevents shrinkage of the testicles till a certain degree and you have a test base.
When taking only epistane you get surpressed, and produce less testosterone and get very tired because of it.
 
Hcg can be injected with an insuline needle subcutan. Places people inject are ussually in the belly fat or in the fat at the knee(just google the method). You don't feel anything of it, I promise! It's an illegal substance that is needed just like clomid.
HCG must only be run ON CYCLE. Start injecting it in week 3,4 and 5!. 2x500 iu per week.
Once you start clomid youve not injected for a week already. (There are people that promote HCG on cycle. But there are mixed opinion about it.)
 
Pct is indeed 3 weeks!
You start with one week clomid on 50mg then 2 weeks on 25mg.
 
Good luck with your cycle man.
 
I guided many people with their epistane cycles. And till this day its my favorite cycle! Will be doing this exact cycle in 2 months!

HCG can be used whenever.
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Re: Epistane / Tren stack help 2017/06/01 10:40:50 (permalink)
And don't short change yourself with a 3 week pct
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Re: Epistane / Tren stack help 2017/08/13 03:08:51 (permalink)
Hi I'm interested in starting my first cycle but I can't find anyone to buy gear from, and I'm willing to pay twice the amount it's worth. Could you help me out
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Re: Epistane / Tren stack help 2017/08/13 03:08:51 (permalink)
Hi I'm interested in starting my first cycle but I can't find anyone to buy gear from, and I'm willing to pay twice the amount it's worth. Could you help me out
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Re: Epistane / Tren stack help 2017/08/13 16:12:25 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby simonboyle 2017/08/13 20:25:02
Jordanhawkins
Hi I'm interested in starting my first cycle but I can't find anyone to buy gear from, and I'm willing to pay twice the amount it's worth. Could you help me out

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Re: Epistane / Tren stack help 2017/08/13 20:25:27 (permalink)
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