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2015/02/12 12:53:44 (permalink)
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Epistane or?

been 3 years since i done a cycle and last was havoc epistane, m1t and sd previously to that.
 
was very good and lean me out to 7% fat and nice bulk
 
3 years on a marriage a baby and work etc im still the same weight but have more fat and lost some muscle.
time to up my game again
 
havoc is out of stock but maybe back soon.
 
shall i wait or switch to something similar, very low side effects and less gyno etc
trandrol, methadrol etc
 
 
any suggestions?
 
post edited by Fx2050 - 2015/02/12 13:11:42

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    Re: Epistane or? 2015/02/12 17:12:12 (permalink)
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    Halodrol will give similar results and low side effects.

    I smoke. A lot. And i eat full fat mayo. So suck on that! ;-)
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    Re: Epistane or? 2015/02/12 19:46:39 (permalink)
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    Halo 0 sides its a mid PH so there is no problem with that
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    Re: Epistane or? 2015/02/13 10:53:41 (permalink)
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    im reading halodrol can shut you down hard
     
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    Re: Epistane or? 2015/02/13 10:58:08 (permalink)
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    I'm in week 3 of german pharma Epistane and seeing decent results in body comp & strength whilst on a cut. Might be worth considering....
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    Re: Epistane or? 2015/02/13 11:03:50 (permalink)
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    i can only find havoc on ebay, hhmm
     

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    Re: Epistane or? 2015/02/13 11:05:48 (permalink)
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    ok sounds potential, seems to come in 60caps so def need 2 bottles for 6weeks
     
    ah its 20mg so ideally 2caps a day for 30days so 2 bottles is 8weeks so a bit over
    post edited by Fx2050 - 2015/02/13 11:14:13

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    Re: Epistane or? 2015/02/13 12:03:32 (permalink)
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    What dose did you run your previous cycle of epistane at?
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    Re: Epistane or? 2015/02/13 12:11:14 (permalink)
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    went up to 40 at the end, just got the german and will start at 30 and split the tab then finish at 40
    start in 2 weeks
     

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    Re: Epistane or? 2015/02/13 12:14:03 (permalink)
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    Fx2050
    went up to 40 at the end, just got the german and will start at 30 and split the tab then finish at 40
    start in 2 weeks

    Sounds good mate, enjoy your cycle!
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    Re: Epistane or? 2015/02/13 13:02:48 (permalink)
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    cheers, it been a while so im a little out of practice
     
     

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    Re: Epistane or? 2015/02/13 13:18:40 (permalink)
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    I don't generally buy stuff like that from ebay. Better to go with trusted seller's like BC or JW
    http://www.bodyconsciousuk.com/epi-mayhem-90-caps/
     
    http://www.jwsupplements.co.uk/prohormones/
     
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    Re: Epistane or? 2015/02/13 13:44:55 (permalink)
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    im reading halodrol can shut you down hard
     
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    All steroids shut you down. 
     
    That's why we run PCT with a SERM
     
    If someone could invent a steroid that had no sides, huge gains and didn't shut you down they would become a billionaire.

    I smoke. A lot. And i eat full fat mayo. So suck on that! ;-)
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    Re: Epistane or? 2015/02/13 15:36:54 (permalink)
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    i meant harder than usual etc

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    Re: Epistane or? 2015/02/13 15:49:21 (permalink)
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    Are these PHs basically like legal highs - IE conventional steroids tweaked a little so they're not prescription only, and also orally effective?

    If so, to which conventional steroid would you compare the top PHs to, please?

    I only briefly used PHs, just a month or so, back in 2004, so a lot has changed!

    Thanks all.
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    Re: Epistane or? 2015/02/13 16:02:38 (permalink)
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    Fx2050
    ok sounds potential, seems to come in 60caps so def need 2 bottles for 6weeks
     
    ah its 20mg so ideally 2caps a day for 30days so 2 bottles is 8weeks so a bit over




    Yeah, 60 caps per bottle.
     
    I'm only doing 4 weeks @ 40mg/day as it's my 1st run of PH. 
     
    Seems to be good though
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    Re: Epistane or? 2015/02/13 16:06:21 (permalink)
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    cool, i love rpn havoc, i bulked well but also got very lean, never been to 7% bf before
     
    i was dating a young 25year old at the time and was a little shutdown but still managed most days  ;)

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    Re: Epistane or? 2015/02/13 17:41:57 (permalink)
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    Rossi2014
    Are these PHs basically like legal highs - IE conventional steroids tweaked a little so they're not prescription only, and also orally effective?

    If so, to which conventional steroid would you compare the top PHs to, please?

    I only briefly used PHs, just a month or so, back in 2004, so a lot has changed!

    Thanks all.

    Prohormones are compounds that are converted via an enzymatic process to active anabolic hormones in the body. Anbolic steroids are already active. Some products on the market are actually active anabolics not prohormones for example Superdrol.
     
    It's hard to compare prohormones to a conventional active anabolic steroid as they convert at different rates and can give slightly different effects.
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    Re: Epistane or? 2015/02/13 19:32:53 (permalink)
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    Rossi2014
    Are these PHs basically like legal highs - IE conventional steroids tweaked a little so they're not prescription only, and also orally effective?

    If so, to which conventional steroid would you compare the top PHs to, please?

    I only briefly used PHs, just a month or so, back in 2004, so a lot has changed!

    Thanks all.



    Halodrol is similar to oral turinabol. 
     
    I've heard epistane compared with anavar but I've never used anavar so it is just second hand hearsay that I'm repeating.
     
    Most of the designer steroids (Which are wrongly called prohormones) are steroids that were invented years ago but never made it as far as production by pharma companies. The formula's were simply left to gather dust until the early 2000's when prohormones were banned in the states and the companies who were making them had to come up with something to fill the gap in the market. 

    I smoke. A lot. And i eat full fat mayo. So suck on that! ;-)
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    Re: Epistane or? 2015/02/15 21:30:10 (permalink)
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    Great replies, thanks all :))

    Why use the designer steroids over the tried and true AAS? I presume a combination of some being better for a particular purpose (like tren when it was rarely heard of, just after Parabolan went off the market), and sometimes more available?

    I remember in 1994, Parabolan being talked about like the holy grail of steroids!
    post edited by Rossi2014 - 2015/02/15 21:32:24
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