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Ergopharm 1-AD Shelf Life?

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2009/07/23 20:24:08 (permalink)
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Ergopharm 1-AD Shelf Life?

I still have some 1-AD which I had left over and forgot about, enough for a 4 week cycle.
 
The dates on the bottles are April 2008, will this mean they are less potent or just completely worthless? I've kept them in my fridge all this time.
 
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What am I, chopped liver ?
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    Daari
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    Re:Ergopharm 1-AD Shelf Life? 2009/07/23 20:47:18 (permalink)
    They'll be fine.  At most, ~10% less potent
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    MILKY
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    Re:Ergopharm 1-AD Shelf Life? 2009/07/24 19:45:55 (permalink)
    PM sent.
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    Re:Ergopharm 1-AD Shelf Life? 2009/07/30 20:34:21 (permalink)
    OK, cheers Daari. I might give them another go and see what happens!

    Am I right in saying that these are best stacked with 4-AD? I'm pretty sure you can still get that in the UK.

    Also, will I need Nolvadex for PCT or will 6 OXO do the job?

    What am I, chopped liver ?
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    Re:Ergopharm 1-AD Shelf Life? 2009/07/30 21:50:42 (permalink)
    1-AD converts to 1-test (dihydroboldenone), but also exhibits some androgenic/anabolic activity before conversion (so it's not actually a pro-hormone as it's active in it's current state).

    1-test is known to cause severe libibo issues as well as major lethargy (dose dependant).  It is stacked with 4-AD (which converts to testosterone) for this reason.  The 4-AD available is the one made by the company 'AMS' which is different to the 4-AD of old which was produced by 'Ergopharm'.  The new version, made by 'AMS' has to undergo a double conversion before reaching the target hormone of testosterone.  Dosages are therefore higher; as are the costs.  Even when dosage is increased people still prefer the previous 4-AD which was banned in 2004
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    Re:Ergopharm 1-AD Shelf Life? 2009/08/07 22:08:29 (permalink)
    Yeah I picked up a good supply of 1-AD and 4-AD (the original androstenediol andro's, not the AMS BS)...Im sure you can still pick these up in the UK. Same company does a really good 12mg M1T too.

    I did a long cycle on the 1-AD and 4-AD 600mg of each, pulse dosed. Used with Critical Mass. Very pleasing physique gains. Overall though, best mood, feeling I have ever had off a PH.

    Using a M1,4ADD high dose product right now called Wicked 50. It's giving the results, but am gaining a little water off it.
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    Re:Ergopharm 1-AD Shelf Life? 2009/08/15 11:20:35 (permalink)
    Hi, Im just curious if you dont mind. Ive been looking for this original 1-ad diol version with 4-ad stacked could you kindly point me in the right direction thank you.

    You help is much appreciated.

    Cheers
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