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    RE: Evaluate your exact nutritional requirements 2003/12/23 00:16:41 (permalink)
    Are those special MT rates then ?
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    RE: Evaluate your exact nutritional requirements 2003/12/23 13:41:59 (permalink)
    Originally posted by seungmena

    Are those special MT rates then ?
    This test is the most awsome piece of diet and fitness assesment kit ever made available to joe public,if you quote MT1 i will give MT members a 25% dicount
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    RE: Evaluate your exact nutritional requirements 2003/12/29 12:25:40 (permalink)
    Want to know your (EXACT) calorific needs to maintain your weight? or calories to bulk up or exact calories to get shredded.
    What if i said i could tell you your exact % of fat and carbs you burn
    or the exact intensity level during exercise where you burn maximum fat.
    Listen people this really is it,take the guess work out of all the hard work.
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    RE: Evaluate your exact nutritional requirements 2003/12/30 18:42:16 (permalink)
    I can see the benefit in knowing your calorie requirements , I'm not so interested in knowing the best cardio intensity to burn fat as I believe how much fat you burn DURING cardio is not as important as calories burnt and the EPOC effect.

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    What if i said i could tell you your exact % of fat and carbs you burn



    Could you tell me the benefit of knowing this? What improvements to my diet or training could I make given this knowledge?
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    RE: Evaluate your exact nutritional requirements 2003/12/30 23:03:09 (permalink)
    Ill have a crack and maybe Origin or Scooter could help me out....

    It means you will know if you are a carb or fat burner. Some people are metabolicly conditioned (though time and genetics) to burn a higher percentage of one or the other. For instance a carb burner will use his carbs for energy before even touching his fat stores. This guy may benefit from having a low carb intake at most times of the day in order to keep glycogen stores low so fat is mobilised after shorter periods of exercise. You can use this info to structure the diet at times of the day too.

    Someone who is more of a fat burner mobilises their fat stores for energy earlier on in exercise.

    The benefit from the full test is that it tells you what level of intensity you should CV exercise at to optimally burn fat.

    Thats a short explanation, Im sure the others will make this clearer.
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    RE: Evaluate your exact nutritional requirements 2003/12/30 23:13:22 (permalink)
    So the optimal ratio of macronutrients in your diet isn't the same for everyone? Given the same caloric intake you could lose more fat by getting the right carb/fat levels for you? I have never heard this before, it's quite an exciting concept. So would this explain why low carbing seems to work better for some than for others, particularly in terms of how they feel?
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    RE: Evaluate your exact nutritional requirements 2003/12/30 23:20:29 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by CheekyChappie

    So the optimal ratio of macronutrients in your diet isn't the same for everyone? Given the same caloric intake you could lose more fat by getting the right carb/fat levels for you? I have never heard this before, it's quite an exciting concept. So would this explain why low carbing seems to work better for some than for others, particularly in terms of how they feel?


    Precisely. This is one reason why I do not advocate counting figures as you'll have noticed. I agree CC it is exciting, and that's why I am 'putting my name to it'. It is technology thats been about for years but never utilised for the conventional fitness, weight reducing industries.
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    RE: Evaluate your exact nutritional requirements 2003/12/30 23:56:09 (permalink)
    OK I'm taking the plunge and have contacted them to arrange the first test. I am still sceptical of how useful the second test is, they will need to talk me round on that score, but I certainly think knowing my RMR and knowing the ideal macronutrient breakdown for me is a very exciting idea.
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    RE: Evaluate your exact nutritional requirements 2003/12/31 04:53:05 (permalink)
    serious bit:
    Must admit, it would be handy to know all that stuff.
    Where would the testing be done at?
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    (EXACT) calorific needs to maintain your weight? or calories to bulk up or exact calories to get shredded.

    Would those exact figures be the same tho if you got a lot bigger? Like say if I had put 2 stones in weight on? Or would you need re-testing?

    un-serious bit:
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    that's why I am 'putting my name to it'

    James YOU will be on the adverts soon just like George Foreman with the Lean, Mean, grilling machine "it's so good I put my name on it!"
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    RE: Evaluate your exact nutritional requirements 2003/12/31 14:33:05 (permalink)
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    Originally posted by JohnOvManchester

    serious bit:
    Must admit, it would be handy to know all that stuff.
    Where would the testing be done at?

    Ill leave them to answer that

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    (Would those exact figures be the same tho if you got a lot bigger? Like say if I had put 2 stones in weight on? Or would you need re-testing?
    No as you get fitter, leaner, heavier, lighter, etc there will be metabolic changes so (if you take on board the advice following the test) things will change. Practically Id say have a retest every few months if possible. However this is impracticle for many but the initial test will give you a good baseline of your metabolism.

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    James YOU will be on the adverts soon just like George Foreman with the Lean, Mean, grilling machine "it's so good I put my name on it!"



    LOL
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    RE: Evaluate your exact nutritional requirements 2004/01/01 12:20:00 (permalink)
    how do you get the test do? do you have to go to them to get it do?
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    RE: Evaluate your exact nutritional requirements 2004/01/01 19:16:13 (permalink)
    Happy New Year to all-- as we are based in Essex its not going to be worthwhile travelling for just one test however if there were three or more people in the same area then we'd definitely travel.

    The RMR test is SOOOOOOOOOo important for anyone who is serious about bodybuilding as it takes away a lot of guesswork about calories required to gain/lose weight and probably more importantly is what % of carbs/fat that you are burning. This will enable you to seriously re-think your diet if you are primarily a fat burner or a carb burner.

    After having this test done and changing the diet accoringly we've had "normal," people (not BB'ers) who have changed their bodyshape completely in a comparatively short timeframe.

    The second test gives you your exact heart rate at which you burn the most fat--as an example if you're burning 5Kcals of fat per minute at 125 BPM but we can tell you that at 132BPM you'll be burning 10KCals per minute you've doubled the effectiveness of your fat burning workout instantly. This test also gives you the heart rate that you stop burning fat and you start burning muscle instead--a must for any serious BB'er.



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    RE: Evaluate your exact nutritional requirements 2004/01/02 09:01:00 (permalink)
    dude really thinking of getting the test done! i am moving to bristol in june, how far away from bristol is essex?
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    RE: Evaluate your exact nutritional requirements 2004/01/02 11:26:05 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by JohnOvManchester

    un-serious bit:
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    that's why I am 'putting my name to it'

    James YOU will be on the adverts soon just like George Foreman with the Lean, Mean, grilling machine "it's so good I put my name on it!"




    Or like Mr Remmington... he`ll be buying the company next! lol.
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    RE: Evaluate your exact nutritional requirements 2004/01/02 11:34:07 (permalink)
    The reason james has put his name to it,is because this guy really knows his stuff and has seen the potential for bodybuilding.Think about it you all spend a fortune on supplements hoping it will give you the edge.For a very small cost this test gives you your blueprint or DNA to your metabolism.
    As for the second fat burning test we can pinpoint the exact intensitity where you burn max fat (sometimes as much as 100%)
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    RE: Evaluate your exact nutritional requirements 2004/01/02 15:34:17 (permalink)
    As regards to what benefits to know carb to fat % ratio here is a real life Metabolic Profile before and after;
    Name; Mr never get rid of those love handles
    Test 1
    RMR (Kcal/day) 1629
    Fat (Kcal/day) 749
    Fat(%) 47
    Carbs(Kcal/day)880
    Carbs(%) 53
    This guy then cut down dramatically on his carbs and eventually complete carb starve and we re-tested.
    Test 2
    RMR (Kcal/day)2546
    Fat (Kcal/day)2938
    Fat(%) 100
    Carbs(Kcal/day)-392
    This guy at peak was burning 2.7 Kcal per minute at REST that equates
    to 1LB of body fat burnt in a 24 hour period.With a sensible step repeat process to maintain his strength over a twelve week period he is now ripped.

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    RE: Evaluate your exact nutritional requirements 2004/01/02 17:44:00 (permalink)
    By changing his macronutrient profile he increased his resting metabolism by 1000 calories a day and started burning 1lb of bodyfat a day which would require a calorie deficit of 3500 calories?

    This doesn't sound possible. Does anyone else have an opinion on this?
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    RE: Evaluate your exact nutritional requirements 2004/01/02 19:37:42 (permalink)
    Origin what's the time between tests 1 and 2, and what differences did the subject do for exercise in this time
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    RE: Evaluate your exact nutritional requirements 2004/01/02 20:29:41 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by CheekyChappie

    By changing his macronutrient profile he increased his resting metabolism by 1000 calories a day and started burning 1lb of bodyfat a day which would require a calorie deficit of 3500 calories?

    This doesn't sound possible. Does anyone else have an opinion on this?



    You only need a calorie deficit to lose weight--he didn't lose any weight he lost fat whilst retaining his muscle which as we know takes a lot of calories to maintain.

    It all comes back to knowing what youare burning and at what rate--we are all differnt and one mans meat is another man carbs.

    The test basically showed what the subject was using for energy the most--we then switched him to a diet made up principally of what he was burning --in this case he was a fat burner so he was put on a low carb diet--he was pretty much then in full ketosis the rmr was raised by 1000 kcal per day whilst AT REST--I.e from 1600 to 2600 Kcal per day--bearing in mind that this doesn't take into account calories burnt whilst exercising and you can see why the love handles disappeared and he kept his muscularity!!

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