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2004/02/22 16:12:55 (permalink)
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F.A.O BIG-AL

Can we use power lifting suits/shirts in the mt power lifting comp.

Thank's
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    Big-AL
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    RE: F.A.O BIG-AL 2004/02/22 16:26:13 (permalink)
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    You can, but i prefer people not to, i forgot to ban them early on and then people posted totals using support gear so they are allowed as a result of that.

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    RE: F.A.O BIG-AL 2004/02/22 16:29:19 (permalink)
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    should be totally raw imo, no suits, belts, wraps, straps, chalk nothing. that is the only way it is totally fair.
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    RE: F.A.O BIG-AL 2004/02/22 16:35:30 (permalink)
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    Well as i said that is how i would prefer it but it is too late now.

    However i have started a new competition here where no aids are allowed: -
    http://www.musclesandfitness.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=242

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    RE: F.A.O BIG-AL 2004/02/22 16:50:44 (permalink)
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    Cool, Can I use a fork lift?
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    RE: F.A.O BIG-AL 2004/02/22 17:22:09 (permalink)
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    Yes of course, i have no specific rules banning the use of one of those!

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    RE: F.A.O BIG-AL 2004/02/22 17:34:43 (permalink)
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    well, perhaps the next time the comp is started all over again could have that specific rule in.

    Also, should have some sort of safeguards against these "Hi this is my first post here, bench 220kg, squat 320kg, deadlift 300kg" and they are never heard of again, lol!
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    RE: F.A.O BIG-AL 2004/02/22 17:40:12 (permalink)
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    Ok thank's for the reply it's just that i got hold of some the other day and i was supprised by the extra that i could lift.
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    RE: F.A.O BIG-AL 2004/02/22 22:51:45 (permalink)
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    what about those who have performed sumo deads instead of conventional?
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    RE: F.A.O BIG-AL 2004/02/22 23:10:01 (permalink)
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    imo, conv or sumo are both acceptable..

    or we going to start discriminating against people who squat wide LOL!

    personally i would prefer to see a push/pull contest as squats are often high and would fail in a comp
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    RE: F.A.O BIG-AL 2004/02/23 06:37:21 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by scruffy

    what about those who have performed sumo deads instead of conventional?



    That's fine

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    RE: F.A.O BIG-AL 2004/02/23 06:39:36 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by badboy007

    imo, conv or sumo are both acceptable..

    or we going to start discriminating against people who squat wide LOL!

    personally i would prefer to see a push/pull contest as squats are often high and would fail in a comp


    And you think everybodies' bench press form is ok? I see more people doing partial roms on bench than on squat in my gym!

    Much of this has to be taken on trust.

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    RE: F.A.O BIG-AL 2004/02/23 12:11:05 (permalink)
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    The contest is really all about trust.

    Just post honestly, what you have achieved and take pride in it.

    It is inevitable that there are some entries on that list that are inflated and exaggerated, more than a couple are absolute bollocks. But realistically there is nothing that can really be done about it. The number of times people have told me they can lift x amount of weight, only for me to later see them struggle with considerably less...

    I use the contest solely to measure my own progress. The truth is that the people that have bull****ted their lifts know deep down that they are cheats and that they are not only lacking in strength, but also self-esteem and integrity. I pity them.

    According to the list I'm 61st! Now without disrespecting anyone if there are honestly 60 people posting on this forum who are stronger than me then I'll eat a tub of whey powder with a spoon! (and I'm sure Mobster and Cougarman would supply it! ) Where are all these monsters hiding??? I'll bet that at least 20 of the people above me have in some way distorted their total. Posted a machine bench? Or what they can squat on a smith machine? Or thought to themselves that they would just maybe add a few kg here and there.....

    Perhaps it might be time to start the list fresh and give these people a chance to come clean? As I said the best thing about the list is that you can use it to chart your progress. If you bull****ted your lifts from day one then how can you actually do that?

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    RE: F.A.O BIG-AL 2004/02/23 13:48:07 (permalink)
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    how about only accepting totals from members who have been at MT atleast for certain time, like couple months, or have a post count over 50? I know it sounds anal, but i think you would get rid of loads of cheats that way.

    MT has a good atmosphere and people who spend a little bit of time here would be more ready to be honest about their lifts.

    Just my 2p's worth.
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    RE: F.A.O BIG-AL 2004/02/23 18:08:58 (permalink)
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    lol i know how much work is involved doing all the table again, but it is als table and his decision
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    RE: F.A.O BIG-AL 2004/02/23 19:01:34 (permalink)
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    go on al, make a poll about it, i know you wanna...
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    RE: F.A.O BIG-AL 2004/02/23 21:24:56 (permalink)
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    I'll go with majority opinion, but if it is decided that a new list is wanted then it will have to be done as and when i can.

    So i will do a poll to canvas opinion, what should the options be?

    New list
    Keep old list
    New list with no support gear
    new list like the old one
    new list only for members with a certain pedigree on MT

    What else? Any combinations of these?

    Cheers

    AL
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    RE: F.A.O BIG-AL 2004/02/24 09:52:35 (permalink)
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    I vote for a new list when Al has the spare time. Thanks for putting the effort into this by the way.

    No limit on equipment, but put a little "e" by the total if they used a suit or shirt?

    To enter you must have 100 posts?
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    RE: F.A.O BIG-AL 2004/02/24 13:24:19 (permalink)
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    Why don't people just say what support gear they use...
    I will start:
    Squat -480 - single ply suit, knee wraps, belt
    Bench - 315 -single ply blast shirt
    Deadlift -530 - Belt
    these are today #'s ..not 10 years ago
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    RE: F.A.O BIG-AL 2004/02/24 16:48:19 (permalink)
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    i think the options should be:

    keep the old one

    new list with raw lifts only
    new list with raw lifts only and at least 50 posts or 3 months at MT (just an example)
    new list with equipment allowed
    new list with equipment allowed and at least 50 posts or 3 months at MT (just an example)

    Does that cover them all?
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