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2011/03/31 15:34:23 (permalink)
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Feeling really lethergic while cutting

Right I'm currently 4 weeks into my cut tomorrow..
Monday just gone I decided to step it up and dropped my cals right down from around the 2000 ed mark to around about 1200 ed.
Carbs have dropped to about the 40g mark and fat is down to about 50g-ish.
I've tried to keep my protein high at about 180g
 
I've currently cut down from around 96kg to 93kg aproximatly. I've deffinatly noticed I've gotten more lean as I can see more of the top of my abs now and also its like the fat is draining out of my hands, feet and then slowly inwards as the veins are really standing out more in that kind of fashion, if that makes sense ?
 
I'm managing the hunger pretty easily although I've been really tempted to eat **** a few times lol.
The thing I'm finding hard most of all is since I stepped it up this week is feeling really drained and lethargic. Is there something I'm doing wrong ? Have I gone too low too fast ? If its normal to feel this way at this stage then so be it, i can soldier on
Also for the time being I'm still managing to push myself pretty well in the gym with the help of a little bit of epherdrine so I'm not sure if this could be contributing to the lethargy the rest of the time ?
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    Re:Feeling really lethergic while cutting 2011/03/31 19:25:48 (permalink)
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    think i've left this long enough for a BUMP !
    any help would be very much appreciated ?
     
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    Re:Feeling really lethergic while cutting 2011/04/01 17:00:39 (permalink)
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    It's hard to comment without seeing the structure of your diet.  We need to see when you're eating in relations to exericse.  Is your job strenous?
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    Re:Feeling really lethergic while cutting 2011/04/02 11:17:37 (permalink)
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    James

    It's hard to comment without seeing the structure of your diet.  We need to see when you're eating in relations to exericse.  Is your job strenous?

     
    Ok my cut started out as follows
     
    Meal 1 (6am)
    4 whole raw eggs, 2 weetabix (200ml semi skimmed milk)
    (477cals)  (20g fat)  (35g carbs)  (35g protein)

    Meal 2 (9am)
    4 whole poached eggs, 2 slices brown toast
    (382cals)  (17g fat)  (27g carbs)  (29g protein)

    Meal 3 (1pm)
    2 egg whites 90g mackerel fillets in olive oil
    (290cals)  (20g fat)  (nill carbs)  (26g protein)

    Meal 4 (3pm) PWO
    whey in water
    (146cals)  (2.7g fat)  (11g carbs)  (24g protein)

    Meal 5 (3.45pm)
    2 slices wholemeal bread 1 tin of tuna
    (346cals)  (3g fat)  (33g carbs)  (43g protein)

    Meal 6 5.30pm
    1 chicken breast 100g broccoli 180g new potatoes
    (429cals)  (8g fat)  (37g carbs)  (57g protein)

    Meal 7(9pm)
    whey in water
    (146cals)  (2.7g fat)  (11g carbs)  (24g protein)


    Totals
    (2216cals)  (73g fat)  (154g carbs)  (239g protein)
     
    A few of my figures were wrong there but thats pretty close to how I started out.
    Then the time of day when I could get into the gym changed so i juggled things around a bit.
    I was losing fat but it slowed up and I dont want the cut to last too long so this is where I'm at now, (this is when im on afters at work) i get up later so i've got less time for meals
     
    Meal 1 (8am)
    Whey in water
    (146 calories)  (2.7g fat)  (11g carbs) (24g protein)


    Meal 2 (11am)
    3 poached eggs, 1 slice wholemeal bread
    (280 calories)  (16g fat)  (10g carbs)  (21g protein)


    Meal 3 (1.45pm)
    1 tin of tuna
    (140 calories)  (1g fat)  (0g carbs)  (34g protein)

    Meal 4 (5pm)
    100g chicken breast 200g broccoli
    (223 calories)  (3.6g fat) (0 carbs)  (33g protein)


    Meal 5 (8pm)
    1 tin of mackerel
    (266 calories)  (21g fat)  (0g carbs)  (20g protein)
     
    Gym at 10pm

    Meal 5 (11pm) PWO
    whey in water x 2 scoops
    (292cals)  (5.4fat)  (22g carbs)  (48g protein)


    Totals

    (1347 calories)  (49.7g fat)  (43g carbs)  (180g protein)
     
    Training wise I'm currently doing a 3 day split
    Monday chest/tri's - 10 min HIIT
    Tuesday 15 min HIIT
    Wednesday biceps/shoulders 10 min HIIT
    Thursday 30 min steady state cardio
    Friday back/legs 10 min HIIT (if my legs are upto it still)
     
     
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    Re:Feeling really lethergic while cutting 2011/04/03 20:43:17 (permalink)
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    You need carbs around your training.  Have some slow released carbs before, something like maltodextrin immediatel post, and ideally, I'd have liked you to have something with carbs in a hour later but as you're training so late, I'm not sure how this will work
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    Re:Feeling really lethergic while cutting 2011/04/04 16:56:58 (permalink)
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    Ok thanks James.
    When I'm on early shifts at work its not a problem as I do have some carbs with the meal that follows the gym.
    I'm going to place an order for some maltodextrin later on.
     
    So i've i add a scoop of maltodextrin to my pwo whey and try to have some carbs in a meal after the gym this should help with the lethargy through the day ?
    What about on afters shift if I drink my whey with maltodextrin while I'm still at the gym and then eat something simple like a banana half hour later, would that be a decent enough carb source without having too many carbs late on ?
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    Re:Feeling really lethergic while cutting 2011/04/05 21:49:33 (permalink)
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    No a banana is not enough.  However, you could have, say, 25g of raw oats in a slow-released protein drink when you get back home, say 1/2 hour pre-bed.  Would that work?
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    Re:Feeling really lethergic while cutting 2011/04/05 21:58:29 (permalink)
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    ECA pre workout could be a consideration if cals need to stay low.

    If you're in no rush or aren't a fan of stimulants then you'll have to take the carb route, feed your body energy or trick it into thinking it has.
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    Re:Feeling really lethergic while cutting 2011/04/12 09:54:41 (permalink)
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    James

    No a banana is not enough.  However, you could have, say, 25g of raw oats in a slow-released protein drink when you get back home, say 1/2 hour pre-bed.  Would that work?

    Yeah thats no problem. Could I just chuck a couple of scoops of poridge oats into my protein shake ?
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    ECA pre workout could be a consideration if cals need to stay low.

    If you're in no rush or aren't a fan of stimulants then you'll have to take the carb route, feed your body energy or trick it into thinking it has.

    I'm currently using epherdrine pre-workout m8. Energy during training doesn't seem to be much of a problem, infact atm I feel I'm actually training at a higher intensity than I was before I started my cut, although that could just be that I'd kind of got into a rut of not pushing myself before..
    Its more through the rest of the day I'd been having a problem with feeling drained.
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    Re:Feeling really lethergic while cutting 2011/04/13 22:03:41 (permalink)
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    Yeah thats no problem. Could I just chuck a couple of scoops of poridge oats into my protein shake ?

    Good idea
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    Re:Feeling really lethergic while cutting 2011/04/13 22:41:02 (permalink)
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    You will feel tired but how many carbs when I diet the lowest I go is 350 , you need around 130 for normal brain function , these low carb diets are crap and there is no need for them !
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    Re:Feeling really lethergic while cutting 2011/04/13 23:41:21 (permalink)
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    steve xl taylor

    You will feel tired but how many carbs when I diet the lowest I go is 350 , you need around 130 for normal brain function , these low carb diets are crap and there is no need for them !

    Well pal I may feel lethargic but my brain is definatly functioning fine. If carbs are low to zero the brain and body adapt into keto which simply means fat is matabolised into keytones to fuel the brain. you can live without carbs.
    Creating a anabolic enviroment without carbs you cant really do but thats not the point you made.
    I haven't intentionally aimed at low carbs. Its just easier to cut the carb sources out when lowering calories and trying to keep protein high.
    Can't really say I know how to get my calories right down without ending up with nowhere near enough protein just to keep my carbs high ?
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