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2006/07/18 11:30:59 (permalink)
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Fighting in North/East London?

Can anyone recommend a class for a beginner in North (Holloway/Angel) or East (Hackney/Stokey) London?

Something a bit practical, maybe some kind of self-defensive?

Cheers.
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    Roger Mellie
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    RE: Fighting in North/East London? 2006/07/18 11:36:46 (permalink)
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    Angel amateur boxing club, but I don't know about any MMA classes or anything in that area.
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    RE: Fighting in North/East London? 2006/07/18 11:39:44 (permalink)
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    Don't know if I could handle boxing.

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    RE: Fighting in North/East London? 2006/07/18 12:01:26 (permalink)
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    I know off globe road gym that do thai boxing in bethnal green . If your looking for practical then more on the lines of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu or judo could be good, dunno where that would be though.

    MMA is also the better option.
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    RE: Fighting in North/East London? 2006/07/18 13:26:13 (permalink)
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    Have a look here mate should be able to find something in the club directory.

    http://sfuk.tripod.com/sfukmainframe.html

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    RE: Fighting in North/East London? 2006/07/18 13:35:50 (permalink)
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    I'd be careful about looking for a "self-defence" class as it were.

    Most Traditional martial arts classes advertise themselves as self-defence but in the real world its BS.

    Anything of chinese/japanese so many hundred years old super martial arts in the real world of fighting are basically crap,
    they are mostly either artisict rubbish, have rules in place that are bascially there to protect there art (so they dont get showed up by any1 that can really fight lol), or are watered down crap for kids and sport type combat and you recieve a shiny new belt every 6 month as long as you are paying the fee's.

    If you want something that will work in real life, look at the styles of fighting used in ufc/pride type fighting as these guys take the styles that are actually proven to work against a fully resistant oppenent and discard the BS art crap.

    Look for something like Muay thai or boxing for your standup and brazilian jiu jitsu or wrestling for your groundwork and takedowns.

    If you get skilled in these then you'll be able to hold your own against any tosser that might decide to get on the wrong side of you.
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    RE: Fighting in North/East London? 2006/07/18 13:41:02 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: [Joe]

    Can anyone recommend a class for a beginner in North (Holloway/Angel) or East (Hackney/Stokey) London?

    Something a bit practical, maybe some kind of self-defensive?

    Cheers.


    If you post this original post up on the general section on this forum then i'm sure some1 will point you towards a very good mma/bjj type club

    http://www.cagewarriors.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=8

    hope this helps
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    RE: Fighting in North/East London? 2006/07/18 15:55:42 (permalink)
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    Cheers for the info.

    What do people think of Systema?
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    RE: Fighting in North/East London? 2006/07/18 16:12:38 (permalink)
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    Check out this site. Not based in London but gives a really good description of wing chun

    http://www.wingchun.co.uk/index_1.htm

    For North London check here http://www.thewingchunschool.com/html/Gary.htm


    ORIGINAL: SteroidMan

    I'd be careful about looking for a "self-defence" class as it were.

    Most Traditional martial arts classes advertise themselves as self-defence but in the real world its BS.

    Anything of chinese/japanese so many hundred years old super martial arts in the real world of fighting are basically crap,
    they are mostly either artisict rubbish, have rules in place that are bascially there to protect there art (so they dont get showed up by any1 that can really fight lol), or are watered down crap for kids and sport type combat and you recieve a shiny new belt every 6 month as long as you are paying the fee's.

    If you want something that will work in real life, look at the styles of fighting used in ufc/pride type fighting as these guys take the styles that are actually proven to work against a fully resistant oppenent and discard the BS art crap.

    Look for something like Muay thai or boxing for your standup and brazilian jiu jitsu or wrestling for your groundwork and takedowns.

    If you get skilled in these then you'll be able to hold your own against any tosser that might decide to get on the wrong side of you.


    Your obviously talking from experience of training in many forms of martial arts that you have most obviously then gone on to develop to a very high skill level. Having developed this superior knowledge in martial arts, you have then of course practiced them in real life situations. Only to discover that all of these martial arts that you have trained in are no good in a real life situation.

    Or may be your not talikng from your own experience at all!

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    RE: Fighting in North/East London? 2006/07/18 16:30:36 (permalink)
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    Yep you are right, obviously i havent practised every martial art ever but i do know people who mention kung foo crap in the mma/bjj type world and they get laughed at.

    Also another thing i hear lots is people getting banned from practising certain arts if they even mention bjj/vale tudo let along saying they train in it, even then being told that if any persons train with the banned member they will not be taught anymore, I mean wtf is that all about, your art is so good but yet you are frightened to test it?

    If it was so good then it would be used in MMA type fighting, simple as.

    I'm not saying its completely ineffective but alot of karate type clubs advertise themselves as self defence when really its not, maybe old school clubs.

    Just at the weekend i was talking to a guy who was a black belt in some type of karate, he said he had a club and it taught self defence amongst every other thing and then he was going on about how there are lots of kids and then half the time there parents join in and saying they do it as a family thing, i was stuggling to keep my laugh in as i was thinking damn that must be some real hardcore self defence sh1t.

    Wingchung i've heard isnt so bad but why do that when you can do something that 99.9% of all other MA's respect like bjj.




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    RE: Fighting in North/East London? 2006/07/18 16:38:52 (permalink)
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    And tbh if you live london then you will be able to find a sh1t hot mma or bjj club.
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    RE: Fighting in North/East London? 2006/07/18 16:39:11 (permalink)
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    get into thai boxing as there are loads of older folk do it(mid 20's- 30.s) as oppossed to boxing where its miostly klids, or adults that started when the were kids.

    Great workout too.
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    RE: Fighting in North/East London? 2006/07/18 16:41:34 (permalink)
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    ITs too confussing - too many types.

    Maybe I'll just sign up for the boxercise at my local Holmes Place
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    RE: Fighting in North/East London? 2006/07/18 16:43:04 (permalink)
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    cant go wrong with boxing tbh
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    RE: Fighting in North/East London? 2006/07/18 16:50:43 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: SteroidMan

    cant go wrong with boxing tbh


    Sounds a bit full-on. I'm just after something a bit casual, once a week, basically for people that have never fought and probably never will but wouldnt mind knowing some 'moves' incase they had to ward off a mugger, when in reality they would actually just run away, maybe some arm locks you can do on your mates when they are being cheeky etc.
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    RE: Fighting in North/East London? 2006/07/18 16:54:03 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: [Joe]

    ORIGINAL: SteroidMan

    cant go wrong with boxing tbh


    Sounds a bit full-on. I'm just after something a bit casual, once a week, basically for people that have never fought and probably never will but wouldnt mind knowing some 'moves' incase they had to ward off a mugger, when in reality they would actually just run away, maybe some arm locks you can do on your mates when they are being cheeky etc.


    maybe karate is for you then after all then lol...
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    RE: Fighting in North/East London? 2006/07/18 16:58:29 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: SteroidMan

    maybe karate is for you then after all then lol...


    Steady on mate
    I did karate when I was a kid and hated having to learn all those patterns and wearing my pijamas wasnt much fun.
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    RE: Fighting in North/East London? 2006/07/18 17:27:50 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: SteroidMan

    cant go wrong with boxing tbh


    I'd go with kickboxing or muy thai, more power from kicks so u get the best of both worlds!
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    RE: Fighting in North/East London? 2006/07/18 18:40:15 (permalink)
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    Any style of martial art, self defence, fighting style will teach you some defensive work.

    A wise old man once said 'It is better to spend years looking for the right teacher, than to spend years training under the wrong one'

    Have a look about, see whats available, I like Wing Chun, it's less 'flowery' than a lot of the martial arts, quick to pick up but takes a lifetime to master.

    Good luck with whatever you find.

    Phil
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    RE: Fighting in North/East London? 2006/07/18 18:41:16 (permalink)
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    Try this link http://www.cagewarriors.com/gymdb.asp?Place=London

    IMO you can't go wrong with western boxing for your average pub brawl. I train MMA once week, Muay thai once a week and submission grappling twice a week, done a little bit of BJJ and trained western boxing for 2 years in my teens. I know people who have trained in Tae kwon do, karate and some kickboxing schools that have been training for 6 months and never even light sparred with a live opponent. At least in Boxing and Muay thai you learn to spar with a live opponent from your first few lessons which gives you the best idea on how to deal with a real life opponent.
    Due to the limited amount of techniques in boxing and Muay thai these arts can be picked up and used effectively in a very short space of time.
    Bjj, wrestling and even certain aspects of mma are fine for competition but taking the fight to the floor is usualy far from best thing to do in your average pub, street or club fight which are rarely one on one fights.
    Unless you train MMA allot you will find most of it is geared towards the cage and is limited in its use in real life situations.
    Elbows and knees from muay thai are great in most fights but round kicks and a descent push kick are very restricted in your best pair of designer jeans and, depending on your school, hand skills are sometimes lacking in muay thai training.
    Most fights are over in three or four punches so you cant go wrong with boxing.
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