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First Cycle / Training Log - Prawn

Hello gents!
Been a while since I've posted here, made some good gains last time! went from rake to less-like-a-rake in my old journal, kept me quite motivated training alongside you lot. However, past 8 months life caught up with me and I've deflated.

I got a lot stronger in my last Journal (Oct 2015 - July 2016). My goal is to feel like i'm not going to blow away in the wind so this time it's all hypertrophy training. I have a pretty good base strength now imo, done a lot of flexibility and stretching alongside strength training. Obvs I'm not ripped but I can curl 20kg DBs now and I started at 4kg!

FIRST TIME GEAR
My last training season stopped (10 months in) because I was in hospital with irregular hormones. Never got a proper diagnosis from the endocrinologist seeing me, but I have extremely irregular/low natural test levels - they think it's secondary. Prolactin was also randomly spiking every now and again for a few days too, which kills test. Alongside that I have low test from an average of 3 NHS tests done in the AM. I'm also ecto and struggle to gain muscle mass due to previous eating habits (much better now!)
I've been planning this cycle for 18 months - wanted to wait until I had a decent base to work with and I could afford everything I needed. I've been training on and off for 7 years now, know my body quite well in terms of what I can eat, lift, how hard I can train etc. I'm 23 now. I'll leave details of the cycle below, but I'm training now with good diet to ease into it.

previous start: 167 lbs
finished round 1 at: 191 lbs (strong but fat)
(13 months, 3 evictions later)
current: 176.2 lbs (i know fml)

DIET
No cutting - makes me v. depressed, so want to lean down gradually without heavy restricting
No relying on "bulking shakes" anymore - doctor was convinced the Maltodextrin shake "serious mass" by ON was going to give me diabetes from a fasting glucose test they did

Macros (would appreciate any feedback - eating is a struggle for me)
kcal/day: 3200
Carbs 40% - 320g
Protein 30% - 240g
Fat 30% - 107g (I know this is higher but with my natural hormone imbalance I want to be running rich on lipids).

TRAINING
Aiming to train 4 days a week prior to gear, 6 days a week with (with some active resting days included in that).
Best system for me was Push/Pull/Legs
post edited by NotSoPrawn - 2017/08/13 01:15:50
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    Re: NotsoPrawn - First-time Gear + Heavy training 2017/08/11 21:06:28 (permalink)
    No offence but you don't look like you have never trained I would skip the gear tbh and just train hard for 12 months.

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    Re: NotsoPrawn - First-time Gear + Heavy training 2017/08/11 21:14:07 (permalink)
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    No offence but you look like you have never trained I would skip the gear tbh and just train hard for 12 months.


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    Re: NotsoPrawn - First-time Gear + Heavy training 2017/08/11 22:23:45 (permalink)
    I'd probably pin the diet mate and go for compounds, eat healthy and lots of it, then see what you're like in two years and go from there.

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    Re: NotsoPrawn - First-time Gear + Heavy training 2017/08/11 22:36:42 (permalink)
    I have next to no testosterone, I can train and eat just as hard as anyone else and I won't gain muscle like they do. that's the struggle I've had for the past 3 years. Anything I gain dissappears if my diet slips up even a little. It's an impossible battle, I have been training for years and meeting my macros every single day. Thought this might be the place where what I have was understood. instead it's "no offence but you're too small don't bother". I get it, but it's not because I haven't worked or because I'm lazy. It's been years of working with no payoff whilst my friends that train with me get massive without even thinking about it. I have clinically diagnosed Low test and irregular other hormones. that's why I stared a fresh page to document the journey for anyone else who might be in the same struggle. Seems dumb now
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    Re: NotsoPrawn - First-time Gear + Heavy training 2017/08/11 22:59:47 (permalink)
    Bummer, crack on though.

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    Re: NotsoPrawn - First-time Gear + Heavy training 2017/08/12 00:59:25 (permalink)
    If you lose your muscle because of clinically low test then you would just lose anything you gain on gear once you come off it anyway. What has your GP said about your low Test? Have they suggested TRT?

      
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    Re: NotsoPrawn - First-time Gear + Heavy training 2017/08/12 01:05:29 (permalink)
    They referred me to an endocrinologist, 3 month waiting list, he cancelled the appointment 1 week before each appointment and he cancelled 4 appointments in total so it took 11 months and I never got a diagnosis. skin on my arms was also splitting badly. GP was convinced I was on gear because of stretch marks and test and wouldnt offer any help like TRT
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    Re: NotsoPrawn - First-time Gear + Heavy training 2017/08/12 05:03:44 (permalink)
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    Re: NotsoPrawn - First-time Gear + Heavy training 2017/08/13 01:21:28 (permalink)
    sussing out my current weights

    weight (kg) x reps


    PUSH
    hypertrophy


    chest press
    30 x 13
    30 x 10
    30 x 6
    hit 50 again soon

    military press - 1st time
    30 x 6
    30 x 6

    DB bicep curl
    16 x 10
    16 x 10
    16 x 10



    PULL

    lat pulldown
    45 x 10
    45 x 10
    39 x 10


    Anterior delt fly horizontal g
    39 x 10
    52 x 13
    52 x 13
    52 x 13


    posterior delt fly horizontal g
    39 x 13
    39 x 13



    LEGS

    leg press
    45 x 12 ???
    i was pushing 100kg+ a year ago
    45 x 13


    seated leg curl
    39 x 13
    don't like the machine


    leg extension
    59 x 13
    45 x 13
    45 x 10


    all in one day after cardio this morning so pretty dead. can deffo push some of these weights higher I think. aiming it 3 x 13 on all exercises apart from flys where I want to hit 3 x 20.

    late night sessions are good but want to start hitting it in the morning. will post cycle details closer to time
    post edited by NotSoPrawn - 2017/08/13 10:48:05
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    Re: NotsoPrawn - First-time Gear + Heavy training 2017/08/13 14:18:56 (permalink)
    increasing weights from yesterday

    weight (kg) x reps


    PUSH
    hypertrophy



    DB bicep curl
    18 x 6
    18 x 10
    16 x 13


    DB tricep overhead extension
    14 x 10
    14 x 8
    12 x 6




    PULL

    lat pulldown
    45 x 10
    39 x 12



    Anterior delt fly horizontal g
    39 x 20
    45 x 8
    39 x 10


    posterior delt fly vertical grip
    39 x 15
    39 x 6
    32 x 8 tired



    LEGS

    leg press
    79 x 13
    79 x 13



    seated calf raises
    66 x 23
    73 x 18
    73 x 20
    79 x 20
    no problem





    Kind of enjoying all body hit!! Can just rotate excercises on different days but means I can't skip legs haha
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    Re: NotsoPrawn - First-time Gear + Heavy training 2017/08/13 14:37:38 (permalink)
    probably be better in the journal section mate.

      
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    Re: NotsoPrawn - First-time Gear + Heavy training 2017/08/13 15:47:02 (permalink)
    How do I move it there?
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    Re: NotsoPrawn - First-time Gear + Heavy training 2017/08/13 16:02:05 (permalink)
    pm one of the mods or James

      
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    Re: NotsoPrawn - First-time Gear + Heavy training 2017/08/14 00:38:33 (permalink)
    Thanks mate, I'll try dm them now and get it moved




    forgot to mention session starts with 7 mins cardio + stretches

    CORE

    core high twist
    40 x 13
    50 x 9
    31 x 7

    core Low twist
    50 x 13
    58 x 13
    58 x 13


    ab crunch on ball (reps)
    22
    8
    12
    12
    4


    scissors 30 secs
    bicycle 45 secs
    kick ceiling 13 reps 30 secs


    3 sessions in 24 hours - ****ed

    anyone know of a good cheap training belts?
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    Re: NotsoPrawn - First-time Gear + Heavy training 2017/08/14 23:37:56 (permalink)
    LEGS
    80.3kg on gym scale

    leg press
    86 x 12
    79 x 13
    79 x 10


    leg extension
    59 x 12
    52 x 7
    dead


    seated calf raise
    79 x 20
    86 x 16
    93 x 20


    hip abduction
    45 x 10
    avoid, Think this will ruin small waist


    hip adduction
    59 x 13
    66 x 13 sweet spot
    66 x 13

    not meeting kcals
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    Re: NotsoPrawn - First-time Gear + Heavy training 2017/08/15 20:11:41 (permalink)
    LEGS


    leg extension
    59 x 13
    66 x 13
    66 x 13



    calf press m
    93 x 20
    100 x 17
    100 x 13



    hip adduction
    66 x 15
    66 x 13
    66 x 13


    still doms in upper body
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    Re: NotsoPrawn - First-time Gear + Heavy training 2017/08/15 20:16:39 (permalink)
    Lolz

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    Re: NotsoPrawn - First-time Gear + Heavy training 2017/08/16 07:51:23 (permalink)
    Please don't take this the wrong way, it is in no way to offend you, but do you do any proper exercises? Such as compount movements like squats, bench, deadlift, overhead press? You appear to be only using machines, and pretty poor ones at that. Hip adduction, swiss balls, ab crunches and curls will get you nowhere. You need to be hitting proper weights, on a barbell. What do you mean by 'sweet spot'?
     
    You say you're ecto, so I doubt you were that fat when you at your previous strongest (191lb/86kg). If you want to gain size then eat as much as you can, even cheat meals are allowed, and train hard. Forget cardio if you want to gain size.
     
    Try a full body routine, hitting the body all over in each workout may be better for you, using compound exercises, not machines!
     
    Stay off the gear, gear will be worthless if you aren't doing the right exercises. You can consider this further down the line, but for now just get your training plan and food intake sorted.
     
    Do you have a link to your old journal?
     
     
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    Re: NotsoPrawn - First-time Gear + Heavy training 2017/08/16 10:05:47 (permalink)
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    They referred me to an endocrinologist, 3 month waiting list, he cancelled the appointment 1 week before each appointment and he cancelled 4 appointments in total so it took 11 months and I never got a diagnosis. skin on my arms was also splitting badly. GP was convinced I was on gear because of stretch marks and test and wouldnt offer any help like TRT



    Sure you shouldn't be getting the TRT sorted or agreed before you get on the gear like the GP assumes you are?
    Or are you planning doing your own TRT? - i'd say that's risky as you don't have the years of experience or sources most of the guys on here will have doing their own TRT
     
    Personally I wouldn't go near gear until the GP gets you started/ approved on the TRT. Doesn't really matter if you have used gear they still have an obligation to help you and you need to stand up for yourself, they still help alcoholics after all even if it is self inflicted! having stretch marks is no indication of gear tell the GP he's full of it and let them do bloods they'll be able to tell if your on gear (or not as you should be when getting tests done)
    I'm pretty sure some of the TRT doses can end up being mild-cycle ish in strength (although ive never used so wouldn't know)
     
    No point in all this effort and gear if its going to fade away the second you stop it. Also wouldn't want you in a position where you feel you have to stay 'on' just to keep your gains.
     
    Think everyone on here has got your best interests and some of it sounds harsh but is coming from the right place.
     
    You need to come from a solid base of health before you go down this road, steroids isn't your magic cure because you cant be (or shouldn't be) on it 24/7 for the rest of your life, especially without the help of a doctor.
     

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