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First PH cycle (pulsing SD)

First PH cycle (pulsing SD)

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I am preparing to run my first PH cycle and should be receiving my SD any day now. I feel pulsing would be the safest method for my first cycle given what I have read. I am thinking 3x per week for 4 weeks as a test run to see how my body responds.

week 1 (10 mg, 20 mg, 30 mg)

week 2 (30 mg)

Week 3 (30 mg)

Week 4 (30 mg)

Use Rebound XT or 6-oxo to help prevent shut down on off days
Reduce XT as well on off days.
Any suggestions for PCT. I have read it is not necessary pulse cycling. Could I get away w/ continuing w/ the Rebound XT or 6 oxo and Reduce XT for PCT.
Maybe:
Rebound XT
75/50/50/25
Reduce XT
4 weeks 3 caps/ day
One problem I have is I usually work out after 6 p.m. Maybe 7p.m or 7:30 p.m. Any suggestions on dosing the SD for appropriate gains, given my schedule, while still avoiding shut down? Also what would dosages be on Rebound XT and Reduce XT on cycle? What do people think? Thanks for any feedback
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    RE: First PH cycle (pulsing SD) 2007/06/15 09:13:21 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Pmann

    First PH cycle (pulsing SD)

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    I am preparing to run my first PH cycle and should be receiving my SD any day now. I feel pulsing would be the safest method for my first cycle given what I have read. I am thinking 3x per week for 4 weeks as a test run to see how my body responds.

    week 1 (10 mg, 20 mg, 30 mg)

    week 2 (30 mg)

    Week 3 (30 mg)

    Week 4 (30 mg)

    Use Rebound XT or 6-oxo to help prevent shut down on off days
    Reduce XT as well on off days.
    Any suggestions for PCT. I have read it is not necessary pulse cycling. Could I get away w/ continuing w/ the Rebound XT or 6 oxo and Reduce XT for PCT.
    Maybe:
    Rebound XT
    75/50/50/25
    Reduce XT
    4 weeks 3 caps/ day
    One problem I have is I usually work out after 6 p.m. Maybe 7p.m or 7:30 p.m. Any suggestions on dosing the SD for appropriate gains, given my schedule, while still avoiding shut down? Also what would dosages be on Rebound XT and Reduce XT on cycle? What do people think? Thanks for any feedback



    Welcome to MT

    This should be in the Supp's Forum BTW

    I don't like / agree with pulsing...

    Blood levels would be all over the place IMO.

    Also if it's your first SD cycle

    no need to run @ 30mg ED IMO...

    10mg ED 1st week
    20mg ED Wk 2 - Wk 3

    Nolva for PCT IMO

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    RE: First PH cycle (pulsing SD) 2007/06/15 09:41:29 (permalink)
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    Welcome to MT

    Whilst "pulsing" is becoming popular ATM, I have seen nothing in the way of bloodwork of users which shows HPTA supression does not occur. Not something I would personally try. Better to accept beforehand that some HPTA supression will occur rather than putting your faith in untested methods & hoping it won't IMO, especially for a first cycle.

    ORIGINAL: mick_the_brick

    Also if it's your first SD cycle

    no need to run @ 30mg ED IMO...

    10mg ED 1st week
    20mg ED Wk 2 - Wk 3

    Agree.

    Given the debate over the issue of progesterone upregulation, Nolva & delayed gyno, Clomid may be a better choice than Nolva for an SD PCT. I have ran Nolva with SD & no problems however , & I would choose it again over OTC supplements as a base compound for PCT.
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    RE: First PH cycle (pulsing SD) 2007/06/15 18:17:40 (permalink)
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    Thanks for the infomation guys and the welcome. I will have to think about what I am going to do here then, but I like the suggestions if I don't go with a pulse cycle. I have just read alot at the IBE forums about people having very successful experiences pulsing, and the lower doses overall seem like a safe alternative for a first cycle. (30 mg 3x per week.) Has anyone had a successful experience pulsing? If so what about my plan?
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    RE: First PH cycle (pulsing SD) 2007/06/15 18:46:48 (permalink)
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    I know Stavross has just finished running a log whilst pulsing SD. Have a read of this

    http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_1860862/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#1860862

    I am running a log at the minute without pulsing, 20mg a day for probably 4 weeks.
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    RE: First PH cycle (pulsing SD) 2007/06/15 19:48:48 (permalink)
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    Rebound XT wont be enough.

    SD sucks IMO- Too much shutdown for too little gains. I took 40mg ED for 4 weeks and got 4 lbs. Lots of strength. However I felt like crap.

    Tbol is better IMO
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    RE: First PH cycle (pulsing SD) 2007/06/15 20:14:03 (permalink)
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    40mg ED for 4 weeks, and you gained 4lbs??? what was your diet like if you dont mind me asking?
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    RE: First PH cycle (pulsing SD) 2007/06/15 20:17:15 (permalink)
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    Thanks for everyone's feedback. I am really interested in trying the pulsing method and have looked at stavross log. Think I might give this a try. Have to collect a few more supplies and then I am off.
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    RE: First PH cycle (pulsing SD) 2007/06/15 20:22:15 (permalink)
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    Chris-

    Diet was the same one that netted me 20lbs on 500mg Test. Im currently 18stone.

    However- I did drop some BF. But SD is the only thing ive ever taken thats given me acne.

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