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First Time User 41 years old - UK - Mass GH, Liv.52 & Post Cycle Matrix - Advice

Hi,
I have finished cutting a few weeks back, reached 9-10% bodyfat and weighed 61kg and had visible abs.  I have since started to try and bulk and build lean muscle and try and minimise any fat gains.
Around 3 weeks ago I started to increase my calories weekly presently up to 2700 daily but not seen any weight gain as yet despite a new strength program with some GVT sets, so still trying to find out how high I should be increasing my calories.
Sarms was recommended to me and I was advised Mass GH would be the best all in one product for me.
I've ordered Mass GH and Liv.52 for on cycle support and now I'm considering Fusion Supplements Post Cycle Matrix as my all in one PCT.
Would anyone recommend any better alternative for Post Cycle Matrix as a PCT for Mass GH for a first time user?
I presently train 6 days a week average, although presently I've done 9 days in succession as I am a gym addict, in the future I'd ideally look to cut this down to 5 days a week.  Presently I have the energy and time to go 6 days a week without too much difficultly and tiredness from my previous session.
I planned to only take 2 capsules a day for Mass GH - It was recommended that it's taken with two meals a day.
Liv.52 unsure presently need to read up on when these should be taken with Mass GH?
I normally train around lunch time occasionally in a fasted state of around 15-16 hours.
If anyone has advise on usage of Mass GH, Liv.52 and PCT then please advise?
Thanks in advance
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    edsfx
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    Re: First Time User 41 years old - UK - Mass GH, Liv.52 & Post Cycle Matrix - Advice 2018/09/18 09:35:13 (permalink)
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    Mass GH im afraid WILL shut you down.

    LGD is not a weak supplement from the bloods I've seen. You will need a proper pharmaceutical PCT, not OTC stuff.
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    Re: First Time User 41 years old - UK - Mass GH, Liv.52 & Post Cycle Matrix - Advice 2018/09/19 07:20:47 (permalink)
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    Mass GH im afraid WILL shut you down.

    LGD is not a weak supplement from the bloods I've seen. You will need a proper pharmaceutical PCT, not OTC stuff.



    Predator Nutrition which stocks this appears to disagree and recommend an over the counter PCT and advise that will be more than sufficient.
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    Re: First Time User 41 years old - UK - Mass GH, Liv.52 & Post Cycle Matrix - Advice 2018/09/19 23:32:30 (permalink)
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    Mass GH im afraid WILL shut you down.

    LGD is not a weak supplement from the bloods I've seen. You will need a proper pharmaceutical PCT, not OTC stuff.



    Predator Nutrition which stocks this appears to disagree and recommend an over the counter PCT and advise that will be more than sufficient.


    Get bloods before and after to see for yourself. You can get a finger prick test for T levels for less than 30 quid so 60 overall if u don't want to do through your Dr.
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    Re: First Time User 41 years old - UK - Mass GH, Liv.52 & Post Cycle Matrix - Advice 2018/09/20 09:11:23 (permalink)
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    edsfx
    Mass GH im afraid WILL shut you down.

    LGD is not a weak supplement from the bloods I've seen. You will need a proper pharmaceutical PCT, not OTC stuff.



    Predator Nutrition which stocks this appears to disagree and recommend an over the counter PCT and advise that will be more than sufficient.


    Get bloods before and after to see for yourself. You can get a finger prick test for T levels for less than 30 quid so 60 overall if u don't want to do through your Dr.
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    Re: First Time User 41 years old - UK - Mass GH, Liv.52 & Post Cycle Matrix - Advice 2018/09/20 18:15:31 (permalink)
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    Hi,
    Too late for the bloods before as I've already started it on day 3 now.
    Will research and try and locate a site where I can order Clomid from to take alongside Supr3 PCT.
     
    Taking 2 capsules a day of MASS GH and Liv.52.  Unsure if I need to take 2 or 4 capsules of Liv.52?
     
    Also when it comes to PCT can I take 8 capsules of Supr3 PCT and extend to PCT cycle alongside Clomid or do I need to take the prescribed 10 capsules a day so 4 weeks of PCT?
     
    Thanks
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    Re: First Time User 41 years old - UK - Mass GH, Liv.52 & Post Cycle Matrix - Advice 2018/09/20 18:28:48 (permalink)
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    puthsardarade
     
    I presently train 6 days a week average, although presently I've done 9 days in succession as I am a gym addict, in the future I'd ideally look to cut this down to 5 days a week.  Presently I have the energy and time to go 6 days a week without too much difficultly and tiredness from my previous session.
     




     
    If this is the case I would hazard a guess you are not training hard enough.  
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    Re: First Time User 41 years old - UK - Mass GH, Liv.52 & Post Cycle Matrix - Advice 2018/09/20 18:32:31 (permalink)
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    I've cut down from doing 9 days in succession to 4 in succession at the most.
    This week I actually forced myself into taking a rest day after 3 sessions over 3 days one of which was legs.
    Surprisingly with the rest day I actually found it harder to complete my reps and had more failures at the weights I had previously lifted.
     
    I would say I am training hard as I lift as heavy as possible, I have GVT in my program and I am failing on various reps/sets.
     
    No advice on MAAS GH and PCT etc?
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    Re: First Time User 41 years old - UK - Mass GH, Liv.52 & Post Cycle Matrix - Advice 2018/09/21 19:24:32 (permalink)
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    Did Simon help you with sourcing PCT?

    I'd love to know how you progress through your cycle so keep us posted.

    Regarding the natty PCT, I don't think it matters how long you run that for as long as your "proper" PCT is in check (nolva clomid etc). They should do enough to bounce your T levels and keep E in range.
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    Re: First Time User 41 years old - UK - Mass GH, Liv.52 & Post Cycle Matrix - Advice 2018/09/21 21:16:51 (permalink)
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    Did Simon help you with sourcing PCT?



    Who is Simon?  
     
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    Re: First Time User 41 years old - UK - Mass GH, Liv.52 & Post Cycle Matrix - Advice 2018/09/21 22:48:13 (permalink)
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    https://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m/tm.aspx?m=5461856&fp=1&p=3
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    Re: First Time User 41 years old - UK - Mass GH, Liv.52 & Post Cycle Matrix - Advice 2018/09/22 11:11:59 (permalink)
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    https://www.muscletalk.co...61856&fp=1&p=3



    Unsure if that was a genuine question or some sarcasm, clearly Simon had no intentions of helping me source PCT and was just eager to point me to the forum rules! :)
    post edited by puthsardarade - 2018/09/22 11:48:16
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    Re: First Time User 41 years old - UK - Mass GH, Liv.52 & Post Cycle Matrix - Advice 2018/09/22 11:39:52 (permalink)
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    Ok fair enough. Best thing to do is just ask the biggest guy in your gym... Can't really help you other than that. Sorry
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