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2014/10/07 01:06:27 (permalink)
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First cycle in two years

Just about to plan my first cycle in two years.
I used to do the same cycle of Deca (1ml) & Sustanon (2ml, 250 mg per week) sometimes with Dbol thrown in every cycle for good size gains.
10 weeks long cycles.

I had good results and no side effects with the exception of peanut balls which corrected itself.
I took Tamoxifen everyday of the cycle and two weeks after.
Now before you all go mad this was the advice I was given by my supplier. He was not the most talkative guy and not one you'd ask to repeat anything.

I'm here because I want to do this right.
I've researched diet and I train 5 days with a little cardio on a Saturday

I've read various things on the forum some suggesting to just do test twice a week 500mg (Monday Thursday for ex)
Would this be the best cycle having just started back.

Also HCG, I never did this before, I took tamoxifen all the wat through and up to two weeks after but I now realise that not good at all.

In layman terms if you could,

*Cycle recommendations
*Hcg when to start and how much
*Anti Estrogen tablets, should I take them and again when

I hope you guys can appreciate I'm trying to become part of the educated few here

Thanks for reading
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    Valley Fitness
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    Re: First cycle in two years 2014/10/07 02:53:53 (permalink)
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    500 mg's test e5d
    Adex 0.5 mg eod if needed (can also be adjusted as needed)
    Running hcg is personal 500 iu e3-4d throughout the cycle (starting on the 2nd or 3rd week) will help stop the plums becoming "peanuts" lol.
     

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    Re: First cycle in two years 2014/10/07 10:57:24 (permalink)
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    Cheers dude, with the Nolvadex, when you say can be adjusted if needed, do you mean in the event of TTS

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    First cycle in two years 2014/10/07 11:29:35 (permalink)
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    He put arimidex, not nolva. Will keep bloat down and prevent gyno but on that dose I test I'd see how you get in before using. No point taking if it's not needed as it'll negatively effect your lipids. Not a bad thing to have on hand along with nolva though.
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    Re: First cycle in two years 2014/10/07 12:36:46 (permalink)
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    i'd get blended test/deca so you're injecting half the amount of oil. honestly think some of the problems people have with spots is cos of the amount of oil you inject on long cycles. 
     
    if you didn't get any side effects previously i wouldn't use any anti e unless necessary tbh as you're just spending money for no real benefit. with regards the tiny balls, i'd go old school and take 200mg clomid twice a week to continually kickstart your nads into production again right thru the cycle. they'll shut down again the next day when the clomid is out your body but at least twice a week they'll fire up and you'll retain some size ball wise!
     
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    Re: First cycle in two years 2014/10/07 12:52:50 (permalink)
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    stick with what worked before, AIs are user dependent so can't really say.
    As for the nolva, run it during if you wish, ain't broke, don't fix it.
    As to post cycle, just 2 weeks of nolva is useless given the half lives of what you are injecting, I would run 6 weeks pct, minimum 
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    Re: First cycle in two years 2014/10/07 13:29:41 (permalink)
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    Kaneda
    He put arimidex, not nolva. Will keep bloat down and prevent gyno but on that dose I test I'd see how you get in before using. No point taking if it's not needed as it'll negatively effect your lipids. Not a bad thing to have on hand along with nolva though.


    Sorry, I previous searched the abbreviation adex and the web search pointed towards Nolvadex , obviously the search engines just picked up the last four letters

    It's pretty hard to keep up with all the abbreviations
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    Re: First cycle in two years 2014/10/07 13:30:27 (permalink)
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    Thanks for the help guys. I'm much clearer on this subject now so thanks
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    Re: First cycle in two years 2014/10/07 13:36:40 (permalink)
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    i'd get blended test/deca so you're injecting half the amount of oil. honestly think some of the problems people have with spots is cos of the amount of oil you inject on long cycles. 
     
    if you didn't get any side effects previously i wouldn't use any anti e unless necessary tbh as you're just spending money for no real benefit. with regards the tiny balls, i'd go old school and take 200mg clomid twice a week to continually kickstart your nads into production again right thru the cycle. they'll shut down again the next day when the clomid is out your body but at least twice a week they'll fire up and you'll retain some size ball wise!
     
    ninja


    Is there a specific name for a deca suss blend, I do like the idea behind that
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    Re: First cycle in two years 2014/10/07 13:58:02 (permalink)
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    think precision and hormone one both do decatest with 200mg test enan and 150mg deca. i'm not a big deca fan so never used it but used their test enan and tren enan and their tren acc/test prop/mast blends
     
    i'll find out the name of the deca + test blend and will post later
     
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    Re: First cycle in two years 2014/10/07 14:17:53 (permalink)
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    both precision and hormone one do nandrotest which is 200mg test e and 100mg deca
     
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    Re: First cycle in two years 2014/10/07 17:43:45 (permalink)
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    Cheers Ninja
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    Re: First cycle in two years 2014/10/07 21:56:25 (permalink)
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    also do test and tren blends which i use regularly. 
     
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    Re: First cycle in two years 2014/10/07 21:56:48 (permalink)
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    oh and test, tren and masteron 
     
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    Re: First cycle in two years 2014/10/08 10:12:35 (permalink)
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    Do you think one of these other blends would be better
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    Re: First cycle in two years 2014/10/08 10:38:52 (permalink)
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    really depends on what you're after. the tren based blends will help you cut fat while adding muscle. generally tho the blended gear is cheaper than buying 2 individual vials and allows you to inject less oil. or more gear per ml of oil if you're looking at it like that lol
     
    basically you're halving the volume of oil you inject and almost halving the cost
     
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    Re: First cycle in two years 2014/10/10 14:33:07 (permalink)
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    Ok so going on what we've discussed on this thread I've just about worked out what my cycle will consist of .
    10 weeks on

    Either

    Decatest 500 (200mg Nandrolone Decanoate 200mg Testosterone Decanoate
    100mg Testosterone Cypionate)

    Or

    Testocyp 250mg

    I was wanting to pin twice a week (Monday Thursday)
    I've seen a lot of cycles if testcyp 250 been done like this equating to 500mg a week

    Can the Deca test been run the same way?

    Besides that I plan to have nolva on hand just in case, although if I feel no symptoms I'll just leave it till pct starts as I've read it can effect gains

    200 mg of clomid twice a week during cycle
    PCT beginning 2weeks after cycle for 6 weeks

    What's your thoughts ?
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    Re: First cycle in two years 2014/10/10 15:01:25 (permalink)
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    If you run the Decatest leave 3 weeks before your pct.

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