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2019/05/15 08:52:19 (permalink)
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First cycle recommendations.

Hi, I am looking into my first cycle, read up a tonne of forums to see what people recommend and don’t recommend, but I figure if I’m going to get serious about it i may as well as ask the questions I want answered.

First of all I’m 5ft 11. Weigh 94kg. 22 years old. Train quite hard, prefer hitting heavier weights than reps,. Trained for about 5 years but past 2 years been more serious than ever. Have a decent physique but nothing amazing. Always feel like I need to be that extra bit bigger before I’m happy, I’m sure that’s not unnatural at all haha.

Was looking into a dbol only cycle, 25mg per day for around 6 weeks, and then do my ptc (have many questions about ptc that I’ll ask at a later date)

Would you recommend running test along side? I don’t really like the idea of injects but if it drastically changes the outcome then I may bite the bullet. Or could I run something else along side it?

After the cycle i want to try and lean out, not to the point of 10% body fat but I just want to look in good shape, however for that I would probably have to do natural as a heart condition runs in the family and from what I’ve read most fat burners can have implications with the heart.

Thanks.
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Re: First cycle recommendations. 2019/05/15 10:09:04 (permalink)
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Welcome.
 
Injectables are generally 'safer' than orals due to avoidance of first pass hepatic (liver) metabolism. You also avoid limitations relating to choice of drug, length of cycle, & dosages.
 
There's nothing inherently wrong with dbol as an introduction to steroids, but with the above in mind you'd be better off doing a simple testosterone cycle.
 
Weeks 1-12 350-500mg pw Test Enanthate
 
PCT starts 2 weeks after last shot
 
https://www.muscletalk.co.uk/articles/article-testosterone.aspx
https://www.muscletalk.co.uk/articles/article-dianabol-information.aspx
https://www.muscletalk.co.uk/articles/clomid-hcg.aspx
 
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Re: First cycle recommendations. 2019/05/15 10:59:45 (permalink)
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I did dbol only for my first cycle and had no problems, tapered down very gradually. Gains weren't huge but I did make some and didn't lose anything other than water weight afterwards, strength stayed as it was. I did get acne but that was about it for sides.
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Re: First cycle recommendations. 2019/05/15 12:33:10 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby Cdingo 2019/05/15 13:02:37
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Injectables are a superior option all round ; injecting isnt as bad as you may think.
Do some research and ask on here for advice . 
 
This is an excellent guide: 
https://www.spotinjections.com/index3.htm
 

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Re: First cycle recommendations. 2019/05/15 12:51:19 (permalink)
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So to your reply party boy;

Is it better to do a test E only cycle? I probably am other thinking the whole inject thing, just worried about like the needles, where to get ride of them, can I use the same one or do I need a new one ever inject, where to inject etc. I’ve not got any friends to ask so it’s a bit of a shot in the dark.

What benefit would I get from running a test only cycle compared to a dbol only? I don’t want to go much bigger than I am so maybe a dbol cycle is the wrong thing to go for, but perhaps if I took test it would be a good middle ground and it’s probably a more safer route.
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Re: First cycle recommendations. 2019/05/15 14:44:17 (permalink)
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Right that makes sense. Would you not suggest running both dbol for 4 weeks then test for 10? Or is that too much for first cycle.

Also what ptc do we recommending then? I know people say nolva but when I search it I’m finding like off branded products that are saying they act like nolva but it doesn’t quite look like proper stuff, and I want a good one. Also what about side affects anything that controls them? Thanks lads
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Re: First cycle recommendations. 2019/05/15 15:12:54 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby Ultimate warrior 2019/05/15 17:41:35
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Running test alone will cause less water retention than Dbol, less side effects as blood levels will be more stable.
Its just a lot simpler injecting twice a week than remembering to take tablets every day.
 
If you dont want get a lot bigger than you are now, why are you considering AAS at all ? 
 
Do not rely on anything but legit Pharmaceutical Tamoxifen AKA Nolvadex or Clomiphene Citrate AKA Clomid for PCT . 
 
10 WEEKS Test Enanthate , two weeks later PCT with Tamoxifen 
 
Weeks 1-2 40mg/day  Nolvadex
Weeks 3-4 20mg/day Nolvadex
Weeks 5-6 10mg/day Nolvadex
 
Or 
Weeks 1-2  20 mg/day 
Weeks 3-4  20 mg/day
Weeks 5-6 10 mg/day  
 

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Re: First cycle recommendations. 2019/05/15 16:42:25 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby Ultimate warrior 2019/05/15 17:40:25

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Re: First cycle recommendations. 2019/05/15 17:11:48 (permalink)
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Do ever feel that you should be charging for this advice P.B. ?  

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Re: First cycle recommendations. 2019/05/15 19:20:28 (permalink)
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Think I’ll leave dbol and just do test e. You have sort of answered the majority of my questions in such good detail as well I can’t thank you enough. I’ll take a more in depth look once I get home and have time to check the links properly. If I have any more questions I’ll ask away, you’re the man
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Re: First cycle recommendations. 2019/05/15 19:21:57 (permalink)
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Cheers for the information, think I’ll leave dbol haha, I weighed myself earlier and I’m weighing in at 91kg. Think that’s a reasonable size for myself and I have fair decent genetics with my size so I guess we’ll find out how i get on. Cheers mate
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