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2007/06/15 15:55:18 (permalink)
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Hi I am new to this forum and new to steroid use and had a few questions before I consider doing a cycle. I have considered doing a cycle to give my muscle growth a kick in the a$$ as doing it naturally has been painfully slow. When I started off I was at 71 kg which was 1 year ago. At the moment I'm on 79 Kg and have about 13% body fat. My diet is good and I take all the basic essentials of course, protein, glutamine, fish oils, multi-V e.t.c.

Recently I spoke to 2 close friends also into body building who say they can get me Dianabol and Anapolon. Unfortunatly due to a phobia of needles I generally stay away from injections unless they are necessary and so I am down to choosing tablet gear. My questions are:

1) Between Dianabol and Anapolon, what do you recommend and why?

2) If you don't rate either what would you recommend?

3) Whats the best way to get off gear i.e by how much do you decrease a dosage and how often.

4) What do you recommend to help with liver toxicity, water retention and estrogen increase, (I read milk thistle helps the liver and an estrogen blocker takes care of estrogen but when should it be used)?

Thank you for your time in answering these questions!




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    cLaTTeReD
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    RE: First time user 2007/06/15 16:34:33 (permalink)
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    get over your fear of needles
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    RE: First time user 2007/06/15 16:37:15 (permalink)
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    Yeah, bite the bullet and go for injectables.

    Otherwise, go for 30mg of Dbol a day for 4-6 weeks. PCT protocol is easily located in this forum.

    Don't increase or decrease during a cycle, use the same amount right the way through.

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    RE: First time user 2007/06/15 16:45:00 (permalink)
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    Do you have a genuine phobia of needles or do you simply not like the thought?

    IMHO, altho you can do oral cycles fine, to do them as the mainstay of your use (thinking long term) is not the safest/healthiest/kindest way to use AAS so I would suggest that if needles are not an option, ever, then you should reconsider your use of AAS.

    For a 1st introduction, dbol would suffice, 20-30mg ED for 6 weeks. You don't need to taper you just need to start PCT (post cycle therapy) 1 day after your last tabs. You will find PCT advice in the articles section at the top of the page. (as well as many other AAS FAQs)

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    TheSpartan
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    RE: First time user 2007/06/15 16:58:52 (permalink)
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    Thanks so far for your contributions.

    Talking about them (needles) and looking at them are ok this is not so much of a problem. Its the preparation and actual act of injecting and taking out a needle that "scares" me. I know it is an irrational fear and in my mind I keep saying that there is nothing to be concerned about but its still a problem. Although I don't jump up and down and have a massive fit and bawl my eyes out or something like that I do get find it hard to control my breathing and therefore end up nauseous, delirious and often pass-out even if I am not even looking at the entire process as it is happening. Often it takes about 30-40 mins to get over it. I.e I have those symptoms I mentioned for 30-40 mins so its really unpleasant.

    I am not looking for AAS's as for regular usage just as an occasional booster.
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    cLaTTeReD
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    RE: First time user 2007/06/15 17:00:12 (permalink)
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    If its that bad mate just concentrate on getting your trainging and diet spot on and you wil make decent gains without AAS
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    RE: First time user 2007/06/15 17:02:46 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: TheSpartan
    I am not looking for AAS's as for regular usage just as an occasional booster.


    I wonder how many "first timers" have used that one lol. Only intend to do one cycle etc etc

    If its that hard to get your head round injecting yourself, cant you get a training partner/ source to do the deed for you?
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    TheSpartan
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    RE: First time user 2007/06/15 17:14:19 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: SJL

    ORIGINAL: TheSpartan
    I am not looking for AAS's as for regular usage just as an occasional booster.


    I wonder how many "first timers" have used that one lol. Only intend to do one cycle etc etc

    LOL no really I don't intend on using it to supplement my training esp after I read what it can do.

    If its that hard to get your head round injecting yourself, cant you get a training partner/ source to do the deed for you?



    Lol yeh, it's not that I refuse to do it outright, I COULD get someone to do it, I just didn't wan't to go through the fuss of having to prepare and hesitate.....and pass out every day for 4-6 weeks. I just wanted it as a last best option rather than going hell for leather and injecting (I know it sounds wimpy lol) My cousin offered to do it as he is going through a cycle so I might consider it if i get ballsy in the next few weeks so yeh well see.
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    RE: First time user 2007/06/15 19:10:17 (permalink)
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    Get a friend to injuect for you?

    Would make things alot easier, just clsoe your eyes
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    RE: First time user 2007/06/15 20:22:58 (permalink)
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    Lol yeh, it's not that I refuse to do it outright, I COULD get someone to do it, I just didn't wan't to go through the fuss of having to prepare and hesitate.....and pass out every day for 4-6 weeks


    You dont have to inject every day just twice a week, maybe get away with once a week but i'd go for twice..

    I'd rather live as a Lion for a day, than a lifetime as a sheep!!
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