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2019/05/15 10:48:46 (permalink)
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First tren cycle, avoiding gyno.

Hi there, I'm running tren for the first time along with test. I've run dbol 3-4 times before and anadrol before at pretty high doses and not even a sign of gyno and they were definitely good stuff, but now with tren/test I'm getting hard irritating nipples and a small lump under them that comes and goes throughout the day (when my nipples go soft again the lump dissapears).
I  have ordered arimidex and I'm thinking of adding masteron to the stack and lowering test to half the dosage too as this should lower estrogen/progesterone without having to give up gains from what I've been reading.
Atm I'm doing 450 mg tren 640 mg test EW. I'm assuming it's the high test dose that's causing this? I'm 3 weeks into the cycle now. Any advice here would be appreciated. 
 
 Also, I started taking a lot of zinc/pine pollen/ butea superba/creatine/boron and a teaspoon of baking soda every day as I had them laying around and figured it would be better than nothing until my arimidex gets here. It has made a difference and my nipples don't stay hard for as long, lump hasn't gotten any bigger either.
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Re: First tren cycle, avoiding gyno. 2019/05/15 12:24:58 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby ch1nch1lla 2019/05/15 14:31:58
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I frequently get similar symptoms at the start of a cycle or when I increase doses, but I have never developed actual gyno so you may find the symptoms discontinue as the cycle progresses. 
 
Yes its highly likely that the reasonably high dose of Test is causing this, also 450 mg Tren is a pretty hefty dose many experienced users dont run it that high and most dont exceed 400 mg/week.
I have run high doses before but didnt see much extra benefit and experienced all the negative side effects , it actually hindered my progress.  200 to 300 mg Tren a week for me these days. 
 
Cut the test right down to 200mg/week , running much more isnt that effective as the Tren will bind to receptors more effectively than the Test leaving it circulating and causing side effects.
 
 

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Re: First tren cycle, avoiding gyno. 2019/05/15 12:28:38 (permalink)
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Adding Masteron may help but I believe most benefit will be seen by reducing the Test dose.

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Re: First tren cycle, avoiding gyno. 2019/05/15 14:36:36 (permalink)
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Thanks for input. I'l lower the dose on both then and add in masteron after 1-2 weeks. Won't be doing tren for a while after, night sweats and insomnia are pretty intense.
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