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Flirting at work - Is it safe where you are employed?

My mate just got sacked for making 'inappropriate remarks' in the workplace.
 
Basically a conversation was going on between some girls about how they are insecure about their bodies and would not want to wear a bikini on the beach. admittedly he was not involved in the conversation but he couldn't help but overhear. In hindsight he should have kept his mouth shut but he felt compelled to inform these ladies that they had nothing to fear and that they all had beautiful bodies.
 
He explained to them how he would absolutely love to see them all wearing bikinis all the time. This was a joke and was meant to flatter them but a complaint was made and now he's been sacked.
 
Can you get away with a bit of light flirting and banter where you work or do you simply have to keep your head down, shut up and wait for retirement?
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    Rossi2014
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    Re: Flirting at work - Is it safe where you are employed? 2015/01/13 14:47:07 (permalink)
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    F*ck's sake - those women need to get a grip!!

    I'd be pleased to get out of there!

    A lot more flirting and dating someone from work though, not a good idea. Don't sh*t where you sleep etc :)
    post edited by Rossi2014 - 2015/01/13 14:48:27
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    Re: Flirting at work - Is it safe where you are employed? 2015/01/13 14:54:14 (permalink)
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    That sounds like unfair dismissal if its as black and white as you say. Stupid rules poor guy. 
     
    Thankfully I have been in small companies dominated by men since 2007 so never had the chance lol. Now I'm self employed I do get to flirt with myself during the day though on account f the boredom. 
     
     

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    Re: Flirting at work - Is it safe where you are employed? 2015/01/13 15:24:50 (permalink)
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    It's the NHS so the PC brigade is in full control.
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    Re: Flirting at work - Is it safe where you are employed? 2015/01/13 15:39:49 (permalink)
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    Bitches be crazy.
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    Re: Flirting at work - Is it safe where you are employed? 2015/01/13 15:45:53 (permalink)
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    Nothing worth flirting with where I work,
     
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    Watch your use of language toolmonkey - think before you post.  Could it be offensive to others?
    post edited by James - 2015/01/16 08:54:22

     



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    Re: Flirting at work - Is it safe where you are employed? 2015/01/13 15:52:57 (permalink)
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    Rasputin
    Now I'm self employed I do get to flirt with myself during the day though on account f the boredom. 
     



    I can imagine you being a right prick-tease.
     
    It's all about context and intention with that sort of thing, without actually being there it's difficult to judge - he could have said it in a really jokey, off-hand way or he could have said it in a really creepy way, we have no way of knowing. 
     
    I think my place is pretty cool but there isn't really much in the way of flirting. We all laugh when someone comes out with something unintentionally rude, i.e. innuendo type thing though.
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    Re: Flirting at work - Is it safe where you are employed? 2015/01/13 16:05:24 (permalink)
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    My mate just got sacked for making 'inappropriate remarks' in the workplace.
     
    Basically a conversation was going on between some girls about how they are insecure about their bodies and would not want to wear a bikini on the beach. admittedly he was not involved in the conversation but he couldn't help but overhear. In hindsight he should have kept his mouth shut but he felt compelled to inform these ladies that they had nothing to fear and that they all had beautiful bodies.
     
    He explained to them how he would absolutely love to see them all wearing bikinis all the time. This was a joke and was meant to flatter them but a complaint was made and now he's been sacked.
     
    Can you get away with a bit of light flirting and banter where you work or do you simply have to keep your head down, shut up and wait for retirement?


    I would seriously have taken this to the company's HR with a view to taking my union rep to a hearing. An off-the-cuff remark, albeit rather 'sexist' should not warrant a sacking ffs! If the tables were turned and two office birds were commenting on a bloke in a suggestive manner it would be laughed off!
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    Re: Flirting at work - Is it safe where you are employed? 2015/01/13 16:35:22 (permalink)
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    I got a verbal warning for making a remark to a girl at my previous company. Then one of the senior partners banged her in a meeting room and she got the sack.

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    Re: Flirting at work - Is it safe where you are employed? 2015/01/13 16:37:09 (permalink)
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    It`s becoming a thing of the past. What was once considered as playful flirting/banter is now considered as sexual harrassment.
    Years ago I worked for a company that employed about 90% female staff, it was the ladies  that used to instigate the flirting.
    Although I do feel that at times some "flirting" is definitely not that playful, if someone is feeling uncomfortable and says so then it should be noted and stopped.
    Being sacked is extreme unless there were prior warnings.
    Without any humour how are we meant to get through the working day?
    post edited by Dumbat - 2015/01/13 16:41:05

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    Re: Flirting at work - Is it safe where you are employed? 2015/01/13 16:39:17 (permalink)
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    JimJim
    I got a verbal warning for making a remark to a girl at my previous company. Then one of the senior partners banged her in a meeting room and she got the sack.


    And I bet the Senior partner didn`t receive any disciplinary measures: One rule for one....

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    Re: Flirting at work - Is it safe where you are employed? 2015/01/13 16:40:02 (permalink)
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    It's the NHS so the PC brigade is in full control.



    This is understandably I have a genuine loathe for the politics of public sector workers. After 9 months in the civil service fresh out of uni the fact you literally couldn't call a spade a spade for fear of it being used as a racial term took the piss. Bloody liberals. 

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    Re: Flirting at work - Is it safe where you are employed? 2015/01/13 17:37:41 (permalink)
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    Women really are indulged to an astonishing extent. They have been given a socially endorsed pulpit to get on their high horse at every conceivable opportunity, the $25 billion dollar feminist "industry" is a cultural tumour nowadays.
     
     
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    Re: Flirting at work - Is it safe where you are employed? 2015/01/13 17:58:39 (permalink)
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    I got sacked for girls flirting with me . When i was 20 I started in a place with a few girls, they used to flirt with me , and some ugly old **** of supervisor used to try and flirt with them.

    1 day i was called in to the office ( during my 3 month probation) and was told a supervisor had complained id done nothing all day. ( which was total bollocks) and i got sacked . I found out from some of the girls a few days later that it was the pervy ****

      




     
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    Re: Flirting at work - Is it safe where you are employed? 2015/01/13 19:13:50 (permalink)
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    If what you've written true then it's unfair dismissal. So not really a problem with flirting in the work place, more a problem with employers breaking the law.
     
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    Re: Flirting at work - Is it safe where you are employed? 2015/01/13 20:40:07 (permalink)
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    No it's not unfair dismissal. For an employer to dismiss they merely need to make sure that the dismissal was procedurally fair and is within a normal band of decisions that the employer could make.

    It was an immoral and vindictive dismissal but as far as employment law is concerned it is procedurally 'fair'.
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    Re: Flirting at work - Is it safe where you are employed? 2015/01/13 20:44:21 (permalink)
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    It does seem the popular thing at the minute to declare how offended you are over the most trivial and non-descript incidents............gets on my tits.

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    Re: Flirting at work - Is it safe where you are employed? 2015/01/13 20:51:43 (permalink)
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    No it's not unfair dismissal. For an employer to dismiss they merely need to make sure that the dismissal was procedurally fair and is within a normal band of decisions that the employer could make.

    It was an immoral and vindictive dismissal but as far as employment law is concerned it is procedurally 'fair'.



    Does telling a bunch of female colleagues that you wouldn't mind seeing them ALL in bikinis constitute Sexual Harassment?
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    Re: Flirting at work - Is it safe where you are employed? 2015/01/13 21:05:45 (permalink)
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    That would depend on the females involved and how they perceive the remark. It would also depend on how other similar instances have been dealt with by the employer.
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    Re: Flirting at work - Is it safe where you are employed? 2015/01/13 22:46:51 (permalink)
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    It does seem the popular thing at the minute to declare how offended you are over the most trivial and non-descript incidents............gets on my tits.





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