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2006/07/15 05:23:47 (permalink)
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Free weights vs machines

I do a lot of free weights, actually that is all i do. I think it is because that is all i had at home, and now in the gym i workout at now, i have machines avalable. I am just wondering if i should add some of the machines into my workout. Will there be benefits of doing machines? I know that they isolate the muscles more, but will it acutally help me add mass and strength?

Thanks for any info.

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    ToxicToffee
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    RE: Free weights vs machines 2006/07/15 07:50:20 (permalink)
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    which ones are you thinking of to replace which freeweight exercises?
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    RE: Free weights vs machines 2006/07/15 11:07:30 (permalink)
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    Freeweights are good as they develop core muscles as you have to stabalise the weight yourself.

    For that reason many people completely discount fixed weights as they have a limited range of motion.

    I think that when training negatives, forced reps and static holds its better to use machines as the weight you are using should be very heavy and the excercise is even more demanding than positive reps. The fact that the range of motion is limited is a benifit here in terms of safety.

    That said, I only train these lifts every couple of weeks, so the bulk of what I do is positive reps, which I agree are best done with free weights.
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    RE: Free weights vs machines 2006/07/15 17:02:26 (permalink)
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    Chest-supported row machines are useful as they allow yu to focus on your lats
    Pullies are useful for things like tricep pressdowns, lat puldowns (if you cant do chins), etc
    Leg curl is a decent machine as it targets knee-flexion (not all the heads of the hamstring are targetted through hip-extension)
    Leg press is useful break from squats (though no substitute)

    Other than that, free weights rule.

    Wipe the sand outta yer fanny and get in the f***ing squat rack!
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    RE: Free weights vs machines 2006/07/15 19:04:43 (permalink)
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    i prefer free weights but i recon resitance can be used aswell
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    RE: Free weights vs machines 2006/07/15 19:38:42 (permalink)
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    one of the good things about machines:

    using shoulder press as an example:
    2 arms to push up, 1 arm to lower, 2 arms to push up, other arm to lower.

    :D

    :o
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    RE: Free weights vs machines 2006/07/16 02:05:18 (permalink)
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    I would not be replacing any free weights, but adding some machines to my workouts. EX...after my chest workout, i would throw in machine flies, to burnout the muscle.

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    RE: Free weights vs machines 2006/07/16 03:15:51 (permalink)
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    Well the fly machine should be banned, dont use one bad for the shoulder joints (it aint to natural they way the machine moves), and persoanlly the amount of pressure placed on the elbow joint i assume could not be good.

    Persoanlly i have no problem with most other machines, so long as you dont use them with the mentality that they are as good as a workout based around Free weights.

    An example for me, would be the lat pull down machine, i have a bit of a problem with my shoulder, and cant do pull ups effectivly, so a great solution was that machine. IMO they are great things should you have a problem, such as lingering injuries, of using them at the end of a workout, where the main muscle may still not be burnt out, but the surrounding muscles hold you back abit.

    Persoanlly i think they have their place in training, like the rest of it though, its knowing best when to use them.
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    RE: Free weights vs machines 2006/07/16 11:58:55 (permalink)
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    Lat pulldown machine, indeispensible to a big lump like me, I'm a long way off doing chins and don't fancy the chin assist machine. Seating rowing machine is good, but I prefer bent over barbell row.

    I always use the leg press, thigh extension and leg curl machines, then of course there is the calf machine, proper burn, all this after free squats. Some of the more isolation machine are just silly, including pec deck, seated bench and the press machine, of course all IMHO
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    RE: Free weights vs machines 2006/07/16 17:13:17 (permalink)
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    I only noticed decent changes in my physique when I moved from machines to free weights.

    I do have to use mostly machines for back workout, but thats because no matter what I do I cannot perform bent over rows - DB or BB and machine cable rows - without experiencing severe lower back pain. So I use chins, pull downs, by lying face down on the incline bench I can do DB rows, and the chest supported back machine is a godsend for me.

    Apart from that, and hack squats free weights rule.
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    RE: Free weights vs machines 2006/07/17 04:50:50 (permalink)
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    thanks for all the inputs guys...

    ss
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    RE: Free weights vs machines 2006/07/17 20:34:29 (permalink)
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    The machines can be good to replace free weight exercises some people can't do( like chin ups- I can't do them because of an elbow injury I had and when i try to do them I feel like my elbow joints are touching and it really hurts). The leg machines are also good in my opinion.
    When i first went to the gym the first 2-3 months I was only using machines as I didn't know the different free weight exercises. I noticed really little gains and as soon as I moved to free weights I started seing more gains.
    I'm pretty sure that if a person only uses machines instead of free weights he will never realise his full porential. Maybe i'm wrong.
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    RE: Free weights vs machines 2006/07/17 21:13:42 (permalink)
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    free weights are good for beginners or if you train on your own ( a cage would be better)

    i wouldnt mind having a bicep curl machine at home to make the weight heavy enough
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