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2004/02/24 19:18:01 (permalink)
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Future of the MT Powerlifting Competition?

Following on from the discussion in the post entitled "big-al"

We are thinking of starting a new competition as the old one has many old totals from people no longer posting on this site and it would be good to set some firm rules from the start.

Rules might include: -

No support equipment
Entries only by members with a certain post count or who have been here a certain amount of time, provenance.
Lifts only from the last 12 months, no older
Lifts done only with specified equipment, oly bars etc

Also seperate entries for each lift would be entered on the table.

Any opinions / suggestions welcome, e.g. what do you think should constitute member provenance? Should steroid useage be decalred?

Cheers!

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    GymCatt
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    RE: Future of the MT Powerlifting Competition? 2004/02/24 19:36:45 (permalink)
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    I dont think decalaring steroid useage would work cos you would get some people saying they hadnt even if they had, AS for the provenance it would stop people putting thier first post of bs in the comp with thier 2500 raw toal then it turn out they are 14 years old, But at the end of the day i dont mind what happens cos i train for me. Yknow i think if the totals are raw some people may tell porkies too, it's a tough one to call cos its just for fun so to many rules may complicate it
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    RE: Future of the MT Powerlifting Competition? 2004/02/24 20:05:54 (permalink)
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    Raw lifts but i think a belt should be allowed.
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    RE: Future of the MT Powerlifting Competition? 2004/02/24 20:06:02 (permalink)
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    Im a little warry of the post count rule. Granted I like to only post in the Power and Strength Forums Im not a chatty poster and only like to say something when its really needed or up for discussion. Thus my post count wont be as high as a "friedly" poster. I think it could be a neat idea but would require a lot of thought and process to imply, that is if you really care heh.
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    RE: Future of the MT Powerlifting Competition? 2004/02/24 20:21:18 (permalink)
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    true but it is difficult to work out on what other basis member's provenance could be bolstered, post counts are of course not ideal but we would only be talking about 50-100 or something.

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    RE: Future of the MT Powerlifting Competition? 2004/02/24 22:17:03 (permalink)
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    my opinion

    -totlly raw, no belts/suits/wraps/straps/resin/chalk/rocket packs etc etc
    -don't matter about AAS, if you can lift it, you can lift it, end of story
    -post count higher than 50, with full details in the profile coloum [age, height, bw, contry etc]
    -lifts valid for 6 months

    rob
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    RE: Future of the MT Powerlifting Competition? 2004/02/24 22:34:18 (permalink)
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    I think raw, i mean some of us don't even have half of the equipment, shirts, suits etc. I would allow belts and chalk though.

    Also i would like to see it in weight classes, although i would say that at 79kg 6ft 4.

    Also what about adding in oly lifts to spice it up.
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    RE: Future of the MT Powerlifting Competition? 2004/02/24 22:39:12 (permalink)
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    why belts and chalk, for one - i [like many] don't have either and for two - i [like many] don'twant either as imo [like many] if you cannot just do it off your own back, you can't do it. simple as, but...i don't want to start a lengthy debate on weather or not it should be allowed or my opinions are right, so i will say, make the poll more specific, and go with what the majority says.
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    RE: Future of the MT Powerlifting Competition? 2004/02/24 23:19:33 (permalink)
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    What does provenance mean in this case? Post count?

    I thought that provenance in normal language meant proof of origin.

    Enlighten me please so I can vote, cheers!
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    RE: Future of the MT Powerlifting Competition? 2004/02/25 07:34:09 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Robert

    my opinion

    -totlly raw, no belts/suits/wraps/straps/resin/chalk/rocket packs etc etc
    -don't matter about AAS, if you can lift it, you can lift it, end of story
    -post count higher than 50, with full details in the profile coloum [age, height, bw, contry etc]
    -lifts valid for 6 months

    rob


    Sounds good to me except the chalk. I don't think you can compare chalk to straps, suits and belts etc. Especially for us lifting in hot countries where you're sweating all over the place.
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    RE: Future of the MT Powerlifting Competition? 2004/02/25 14:38:40 (permalink)
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    New one, raw, with member provenance.
    sounds sensible to me.

    I agree that chalk should probably be allowed, similar reasons to DMPM. I dont use it myself, but i dont think its the same as equipment. Chalk, or if one were a bit of a nancy and liked to use gloves for heavy deadlifts still mean you have to hold the bar with your own grip strength, so imo should be allowed.
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    RE: Future of the MT Powerlifting Competition? 2004/02/25 14:53:01 (permalink)
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    Nothing wrong with a belt and some chalk in my opinion.
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    RE: Future of the MT Powerlifting Competition? 2004/02/25 16:00:37 (permalink)
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    Can we put in the oly lifts as well? Rusev would probably always be at top but it would be good as well
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    RE: Future of the MT Powerlifting Competition? 2004/02/25 16:36:31 (permalink)
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    col,

    ok, i can see the point about the chalk, DPM's point esp. but not belts, at the end of the day, they help you lift considerabley more, and, if that is ok, then why aren't straps [not that i would you understand - i hate them], they do the same job. [make up for weaknesses in your lift].

    just my op mind you.
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    RE: Future of the MT Powerlifting Competition? 2004/02/25 16:44:22 (permalink)
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    I think i'm with robert actually, if it's gonna be raw might aswell go all the way, no belts, nothing. As for chalk shouldn't matter either way it aint that hard to grip a bar for 1 dead. Especially the amount of grip obssed people on here.
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    RE: Future of the MT Powerlifting Competition? 2004/02/25 16:44:51 (permalink)
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    Trouble with belts is (ive been thinking about this), they're allowed in proper powerlifting comps arent they? I dont want to use one as i believe the arguments ive read here against amateurs using them, but if others want to use one, maybe they should be allowed. im not sure.
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    RE: Future of the MT Powerlifting Competition? 2004/02/25 16:52:31 (permalink)
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    I'd say all the people who use belts would be perfectly capable of lifting with no belt so to make it a level playing field might aswell go 100% raw the only result is it'll hurt some peoples egos posting lower totals but who cares it's only a bit of fun.
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    RE: Future of the MT Powerlifting Competition? 2004/02/25 17:05:37 (permalink)
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    I'd say all the people who use belts would be perfectly capable of lifting with no belt

    #1 hy wear one then?
    #2 from memory, SOG doesn't, see past thread on belts and his disscussion with GTM.

    that said,
    quote:
    who cares it's only a bit of fun.


    having re-read the posts, i am inclined to agree
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    RE: Future of the MT Powerlifting Competition? 2004/02/25 17:27:42 (permalink)
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    new one, raw, no belt, staps and stuff. Chalk should be ok for reasons that DMPM stated.

    And hey, if you can deadlift 300 with straps and 280 without, 280 is still a huge lift and in the end of the day it is all fun and games. This migh also encourage people to try lifting raw to see how they fare against others.

    Would like to pick up on roberts comment bout 6 month timeline. What do you mean, you mean that the lift should be less than 6 months old? I think thats a good rule, after all you cannot walk into a powerlifting comp and say to the judges your totals from 2 years ago, lol!
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    RE: Future of the MT Powerlifting Competition? 2004/02/25 17:33:37 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by veganlifter

    new one, raw, no belt, staps and stuff. Chalk should be ok for reasons that DMPM stated.

    And hey, if you can deadlift 300 with straps and 280 without, 280 is still a huge lift and in the end of the day it is all fun and games. This migh also encourage people to try lifting raw to see how they fare against others.

    Would like to pick up on roberts comment bout 6 month timeline. What do you mean, you mean that the lift should be less than 6 months old? I think thats a good rule, after all you cannot walk into a powerlifting comp and say to the judges your totals from 2 years ago, lol!



    exactly, or you may have been following several routies in that timeframe [2 years] and 6 months would make the progress for each one easier to moniter, even if you only did one routine, you could see where the most increases of strength came during tht time. and it also means, that any newbies with a 2500total would have to update it every 6 months, which would make it easy to spot liers.
    rob

    P.S> i still think no belt, afetr all, they don't add much more than straps do. and seeing as there is going to be a massive difference between lifters who juice and those who don't, we need all the advantages we can get mate!
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