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GSP or Anderson silva?

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2008/05/11 11:22:42 (permalink)

GSP or Anderson silva?

Guys partly taking from a fantasy line up card by cheetah but i have also wondered this many times myself as both fighters are my favorites out there.

If both were meeting at the same weight who do you think would win?

I am saying GSP for pure conditioning an all round game,

What do you recon?
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    RE: GSP or Anderson silva? 2008/05/11 12:43:40 (permalink)
    the fight would become such a stalemate that Big John would join in to make it exciting lol. I've had this discussion plenty of times and it seems to be whoever fought last would win as they tend to be fresh in the mind.

    I think GSP might be a little bit stronger, and that is the only edge I can think that one of them might have, without breaking it down into minute details
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    RE: GSP or Anderson silva? 2008/05/11 13:01:51 (permalink)
    Neither, Bradley 'one punch' Pickett would kick both their arses.
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    RE: GSP or Anderson silva? 2008/05/11 13:33:35 (permalink)
    Yeah lol, 'one punch' knockout for Silva or GSP lol.

    Well Silva walks around at around 200lbs and GSP about 185lbs so i guess the fighting would be at Middleweight. GSP has the better wrestling ability and movement on the ground but Silva has lethal BJJ even from bottom position. I think the difference would be stand up and Silva height and reach is a big advantage.

    Silva would win TKO/KO by strikes, Pierre has been KO'ed before and Silva is the most round stand up guy in MMA IMO

    Amazing fight to watch
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    RE: GSP or Anderson silva? 2008/05/11 14:36:55 (permalink)
    If they fight it's likely to take place at Middleweight as it's been well documented GSP really has to work hard to make 170 so him moving up to 185 wouldn't be an issue at all, GSP has great wrestling it's far better than Silva's but that's all he has going for him in this fight I think. On the feet it's Silva's to lose with his reach advantage and pinpoint striking, if it goes to the ground that's a tough one as GSP is no rookie at BJJ either but I reckon Silva has the edge here also.

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    RE: GSP or Anderson silva? 2008/05/11 16:26:31 (permalink)
    Gotta be GSP, the guy is an all round natural born killer, awsome

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    RE: GSP or Anderson silva? 2008/05/11 17:02:46 (permalink)
    GSP imo definately has the better strength and conditioning - look how he man handled hughes and trigg and those guys are no sloaches! Hughes is an strong as an ox!

    Saying that i dont think GSP has a good enough chin to take andersons on slaught especially his knees,also hes as bendy as a rubber band lol

    Would be one hell off a fight!
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    RE: GSP or Anderson silva? 2008/05/11 17:11:42 (permalink)
    Such a wicked matchup... GSP walks around 190lbs.. so he wouldnt have a size advantage as he usually does against his opponents. Wrestling > GSP. GnP > GSP... stand up id give it to Silva by miles. If the fight went ahead id root for GSP.

    The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses - behind the lines, in the gym, and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights.



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    RE: GSP or Anderson silva? 2008/05/11 18:37:59 (permalink)
    I'm going to go with Silva, his striking is just too good for GSP and he's shown excellent submissions in his last few fights, i think he'd catch GSP. If GSP was to just keep taking Silva down and holding him down, he could get the decision, but i don't think he could submit or knockout Silva.
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    RE: GSP or Anderson silva? 2008/05/11 19:53:49 (permalink)
    IMO Silva would win. He showed how good he was against Henderson a good wrestler whos fought at 205 and showed how good his BJJ is in fights. Silva is strong so so I think GSP would find it diffiult to take him down and then Silva would destroy GSP on the feet and win by TKO.

    When Penn beats Sherk I'd like to see GSP v Penn again.
    post edited by musclemorse - 2008/05/11 19:55:10
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    RE: GSP or Anderson silva? 2008/05/11 21:09:31 (permalink)
    But Henderson dominated Silva for much of that fight, taking him to ground almost at will. And whilst he may not have made the most of that dominance in terms of damage done, he certainly proved that a top class Wrestler is more than a match for Silva.

    In my opinion Henderson lost that fight through poor cardio and an excellent knee strike from Silva which rocked him and led to Silvas submission, which ended the fight. Yes GSP got caught by Serra, but that doesn't automatically mean he's got a weak chin, and his conditioning is a hundred times better than Hendersons.

    GSP for me.
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    RE: GSP or Anderson silva? 2008/05/12 18:33:47 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: jango

    But Henderson dominated Silva for much of that fight, taking him to ground almost at will. And whilst he may not have made the most of that dominance in terms of damage done, he certainly proved that a top class Wrestler is more than a match for Silva.

    In my opinion Henderson lost that fight through poor cardio and an excellent knee strike from Silva which rocked him and led to Silvas submission, which ended the fight. Yes GSP got caught by Serra, but that doesn't automatically mean he's got a weak chin, and his conditioning is a hundred times better than Hendersons.

    GSP for me.


    How did you come to the conclusion that Henderson 'dominated' Silva for much of that fight? I don't think we were watching the same fight, Henderson took Silva down in the first round then put his hand over his face and held him there until the end of the round. Then Silva came out in the second round and battered him, there was no 'taking down almost at will' either. What GSP did to Serra at the last UFC, that's taking somebody down at will.

    I would agree that Henderson won the first round in that fight but to say he dominated Silva for most of the fight is ludicrous, Silva did not look under pressure once during that fight. For those saying GSP has better strength and conditioning, did you not see Silva hold Franklin in a Muay Thai clinch and throw him around the octagon knee'ing him repeatedly? Franklin has to be one of the strongest guys at Middleweight. I cannot comment on whether GSP has better conditioning than Anderson Silva or not and nobody else can either because none of his fights have went outside the second round.

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    RE: GSP or Anderson silva? 2008/05/12 19:33:30 (permalink)
    Both are great fighters

    Silva has a size advantage - so he should win - that extra reach counts for a lot with his style of fighting

    It would be a great fight to watch I'm sure

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    RE: GSP or Anderson silva? 2008/05/12 20:08:27 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Cheetah

    For those saying GSP has better strength and conditioning, did you not see Silva hold Franklin in a Muay Thai clinch and throw him around the octagon knee'ing him repeatedly? Franklin has to be one of the strongest guys at Middleweight. I cannot comment on whether GSP has better conditioning than Anderson Silva or not and nobody else can either because none of his fights have went outside the second round.



    I like GSP and silva but theres no way Rich Franklin in my opinion anyway can be compared (saying that silva thinks franklin fought well against him??) I think Franklin is highly over rated.

    I still think GSP has better strength and conditioning and will handle anderson fine if he can avoid getting into the mauy thai clinch and those big fcuking knees lol - GSP has fought a who's who (sound like joe rogan now lol) of talented fighters such as serra,hughes,trigg,koschek - all very strong guys and great wrestlers, not run of the mill fighters imo.

    In the ufc anyway anderson hasnt had the toughest fights with franklin, lutter and leben - actually lutter from memory should have ground and pounded him out in the first round or was very close to it then if i remember right he gassed big style.

    I think the guy is a dynamite striker and ground specialist but i truely think he hasnt fought anyone near his class yet and GSP imo is the man to do it (if his head is screwed on that is as he can let himself drift and not prepare right,saying that if he got the anderson fight he would have no choice to get his head straight as it would be the toughest fight of his career!)

    Think we'l start a petition and send it to Dana to get it sorted haha - Oh!! And it will have to be held in belfast again



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    RE: GSP or Anderson silva? 2008/05/12 20:22:10 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Cheetah

    I would agree that Henderson won the first round in that fight but to say he dominated Silva for most of the fight is ludicrous, Silva did not look under pressure once during that fight.



    I said that Henderson didn't make the most of his dominance.

    If you accept that Henderson won the first round, then how can you not accept that he dominated him?

    By it's very meaning, to win a round you have to dominate your opponent, do you not?
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    RE: GSP or Anderson silva? 2008/05/12 20:49:05 (permalink)
    He won the 1st round but you said he dominated much of the fight. Well Henderson won 1 round of 2 and when he was in the dominant position he did very little to damage or hurt Silva in that position on the ground

    2nd round he was completely outclassed from standing to the ground
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    RE: GSP or Anderson silva? 2008/05/12 21:48:55 (permalink)
    He did dominate much of the fight. He won the first round, and much of the second. He didn't do as much with his dominance as he should have, but up until Silvas knee he was the dominant fighter in my opinion.

    Henderson has arguably the strongest chin in MMA, so that knee must have been absolute dynamite to have left him so badly rocked that he was submitted by a move that he would have usually been able to get out of. It's virtually unheard of for anyone to be able to get Hendersons back like that.

    Anyway my point is that Henderson showed that a good wrestler (which GSP most certainly is) is more than capable of man handling Silva

    I rate Silva, really I do, but I do think he's a tad over-rated to be honest. He is dominating a whole division, but it must be remembered that the middleweights are arguably the weakest division in the UFC.
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    RE: GSP or Anderson silva? 2008/05/12 21:59:27 (permalink)
    I see your point jango but we'll have to agree to disagree I just don't think Henderson dominated most of that fight at all, I think we just have different opinions on the term 'domination'. I think Heavyweight would be a contender for weakest division in the UFC, I don't think Silva is over rated because of the division he's in. It's just he's made good fighters look very very average therefore a lot of people think the division is weak now.

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    RE: GSP or Anderson silva? 2008/05/12 22:11:11 (permalink)
    He didn't dominate him in style i'll agree. But he did nulify his attacks with his awesome Greco Roman moves. Wrestling isn't always attractive to watch, and it isn't well practiced or well understood in the UK, but when done well it is extremely effective.

    I've only just started wrestling myself so I'm not an expert by any means (you probably know more than me) but I have been amazed at how technical it is.

    I think GSP is too good a wrestler, and too well conditioned to lose to Silva.

    I could be wrong, but that's what I think.
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    RE: GSP or Anderson silva? 2008/05/13 15:52:57 (permalink)
    Henderson dominated the first round but the secound round was pretty even up until the the two big knees. then Silva dominated Henderson on the ground until he submitted him.

    I think Silvas ability to stay on his feet is under rated. IMO I think GSP wouldn't take Silva down as easy as people think (thats just my opinion it's probably wrong).

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