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G.V.T 2000 or O.V.T ? which one to follow?

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G.V.T 2000 or O.V.T ? which one to follow?

G.V.T 2k = http://t-mag.com/html/body_118gvt.html

O.V.T = http://www.t-mag.com/nation_articles/257ovt2.html

They both look aight - but not sure which one really, I've been advised to do a german volume training routine, however there are a couple of variations...both have good points and most likley some bad points.
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    RE: G.V.T 2000 or O.V.T ? which one to follow? 2004/02/20 19:02:15 (permalink)
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    I'd say you've been advised wrong..
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    RE: G.V.T 2000 or O.V.T ? which one to follow? 2004/02/20 19:03:55 (permalink)
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    Can you give me an explination dude of why ?

    I've currently been following Frankies 5x5, havent noticed any change in size, but strength has definatly gone up. [which is definatly a good thing]
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    RE: G.V.T 2000 or O.V.T ? which one to follow? 2004/02/20 20:33:33 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by RagingBull

    I've currently been following Frankies 5x5, havent noticed any change in size, but strength has definatly gone up.


    I don't know how long you've been on 5x5. If you've been on 5x5 for at least 12 weeks and haven't noticed any changes in size, then take a good look at your diet. You may not be eating enough. If you've been on 5x5 for less than 12 weeks, then it's too soon to judge changes in size.
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    RE: G.V.T 2000 or O.V.T ? which one to follow? 2004/02/21 10:52:13 (permalink)
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    I would use OVT but I think the volume is still too high even after its been 'optimized'.
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    RE: G.V.T 2000 or O.V.T ? which one to follow? 2004/02/21 13:53:37 (permalink)
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    Frankie NY:
    Im actually cutting at the moment, and the diet is in great order, so obviously I wouldnt gain in terms of size yet [I've got a bit of flab to get rid of first].
    Any suggestions as to what you think I should do?

    PikeKing:
    As in too many exercises or too many reps or sets?

    Thanks chaps.
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    RE: G.V.T 2000 or O.V.T ? which one to follow? 2004/02/21 15:48:35 (permalink)
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    RagingBull:

    The first question I would ask you is why are you cutting? There's a big difference between "cutting" and "wanting to drop a few pounds".

    Cutting has almost nothing to do with your weight workout and everything to do with diet and cardio.
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    RE: G.V.T 2000 or O.V.T ? which one to follow? 2004/02/21 16:03:56 (permalink)
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    Ah ok, well I dont want to drop too much weight, however my bodyfat percentage is around 19-20%, im 5ft10, and weighing just under 12.5 stone, im just trying to get rid of the fat, then build up a good frame [as its quite small at the moment].
    My diet and cardio is good now.

    BTW I still dig your workout, and will always return to it, I just need to change my workout today because I was following your one for quite some time...[most of the time I was following your routine my diet was crap, but the past 2 weeks its sorted].
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    RE: G.V.T 2000 or O.V.T ? which one to follow? 2004/02/21 21:57:52 (permalink)
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    If you are restricting your calories I wouldnt use OVT.
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    RE: G.V.T 2000 or O.V.T ? which one to follow? 2004/02/21 22:00:12 (permalink)
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    Yeah the cals are definatly restricted, maybe I posted this in the wrong section...its not like im a proper bodybuilder.

    Ok if GVT & OVT arent worth doing, is there any routine that you could recommend?

    Appreciate the help !


    Just realised, maybe its worth stating my goals at the moment.

    For the next 3-4 months I am burning off fat with cardio and diet, however I'd also like to build up my frame a bit more since its smallish, or at least maintain what [if any] muscle I have, and hopefully increase my strength. When I get down to a more ideal BF% I would then like to increase my muscle mass and "bulk" up. I was just advised by my trainer to do a GVT routine for the next 6-8 weeks, since I have been doing Frankies 5x5 for just over 12 weeks. [The weights have and still are increasing !] I just thought I might need a change. The program is a similar 3 day split of push/pull/legs + my cardio and martial arts. Obviously I just wanted to see what you chaps thought.
    Sorry if was typed out badly to start with, I can understand that I havent included enough info on me or my training.
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