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2018/03/14 11:01:18 (permalink)
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Generic first cycle thread

Hi all,
 
Hopefully a (not so) standard first cycle thread. I have some questions but hopefully this is more thought out than some of the stuff I've seen floating around boards!
 
The history
I mentioned in my intro thread - I've been training since I was a lad - over 15 years now, but a few years ago between work and some health issues I had to take a lot of time off. I've been getting back into training seriously over the last year, but due to age and life commitments, it's harder than when I was in my early 20s!
 
The goal
Get lean! Goal of the cycle is to cut, and hopefully gain some strength. I would be happy not losing a tremendous amount of weight, but would like to lean out and get body fat down.  
 
The training/diet
Currently I am training full body, 3 times a week. Reasonably high volume. I'm enjoying this, and would ideally carry on - is this a stupid idea? Cardio performed 3-4 times a week. 30 mins of moderate work - nothing ridiculous
 
Diet will be around maintenance, adjusting as I need. Maintenance = about 2500 kcals for me, 200g of protein/carbs a day. Lots of chicken & rice! Like to keep things fairly simple and flexible with diet so above and beyond this I'm not going to get too bogged down
 
The cycle 
Cycle will be as follows:
 
Week 1: Test E 1000mg 
Week 2: Test E 500mg
Week 3: Test E 500mg 
Week 4: Test E 500mg
Week 5: Test E 500mg
Week 6: Test E 500mg
Week 7: Test E 500mg
Week 8: Test E 500mg + HCG 500iu
Week 9: Test E 500mg + HCG 500iu
Week 10: Test E 500mg + HCG 500iu
 
Week 11: HCG 500iu
Week 12: 
 
Week 13: 40mg Nolva ED
Week 14: 20mg Nolva ED
Week 15: 20mg Nolva ED
Week 16: 20mg Nolva ED
 
Arimidex/Nolva on hand throughout whole cycle in case sides appear
 
The questions
So with the above in mind, or TLDR:
  • Is keeping my existing training but increasing weights, reducing rest periods etc going to get the most from my cycle?
  • Should I be using HCG in weeks 11/12? Am I using this correctly towards the end of the cycle?
  • Does pinning 250mg twice weekly sound the best for Test E? Hopefully will reduce potential sides as I don't know how I'll react
 
post edited by Chromebeast - 2018/03/14 17:01:39
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    Re: Generic first cycle thread 2018/03/14 11:52:06 (permalink)
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    Looks good. You can probably push starting the adex back to week 2 and drop the clomid which can come with a whole host of nasty side effects. Instead just double up the nolva the first week.
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    Re: Generic first cycle thread 2018/03/14 12:12:36 (permalink)
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    Personally I wouldn't run Dbol on a cut just stick to the Test....500mg of Test ew will give you great gains along with 20mg of Nolva ed if needed for gyno protection, your diet and cardio will dictate the rest.
    Running HCG is a personal thing but 500iu's e3-4 days towards the end of your cycle stoping a 5-7 days before you commence your PCT is a good way to go.

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    Re: Generic first cycle thread 2018/03/14 12:19:27 (permalink)
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    Cheers guys!
     
    Only really thought of adding the dbol in as people have told me that effects of T aren't always noticeable til 8 weeks in. Not sure if this is just bro-science? Anything else worth it as a kick start? Oral Tbol maybe?
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    Re: Generic first cycle thread 2018/03/14 12:55:57 (permalink)
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    I'd just preload the Test on week one....Trust me you'll grow on 500mg of Test ew especially on your first cycle.

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    Re: Generic first cycle thread 2018/03/14 13:42:27 (permalink)
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    silent rep
    I'd just preload the Test on week one....Trust me you'll grow on 500mg of Test ew especially on your first cycle.


    Preloading sounds good. So I think I'll be dealing with 250mg per cc in the amps. Am I good to inject 2ccs? Was probably going to pin in quads if that's relevant

    Thanks again for the advice!
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    Re: Generic first cycle thread 2018/03/14 14:06:37 (permalink)
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    OK so you intend on doing 500mg ew ie 2ml so week one you do 4ml 1g.
     
    2ml in one site and 2ml in another. Glutes are you're best bet lots of muscle and low on nerves, just use a full length mirror to spot where to pin. No more than 1 shot per glute per week they will take 2ml easy.
    Quads are a bit of a marmite choice tbh, some people like pinning them as I do others have problems with all the nerves running down them and won't fcuking touch them lol.

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    Re: Generic first cycle thread 2018/03/14 15:12:59 (permalink)
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    Adex may is high, especially if you drop the Dbol. 
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    Re: Generic first cycle thread 2018/03/14 15:39:06 (permalink)
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    richy930
    Adex may is high, especially if you drop the Dbol. 




    Agreed I'd not run Adex with just the Test, Nolva if needed.

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    Re: Generic first cycle thread 2018/03/14 17:03:08 (permalink)
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    Thanks again all - updated above. I'll keep enough adex/nolva on hand for the whole cycle, otherwise just test
     
    Does the training/diet sound okay? Trying to keep things simple and carry on with the stuff I'm enjoying. Don't hear too many people using full body workouts on gear though. Not sure if it's worth moving to a split? I could make a 4th day at the gym if I needed to
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    Re: Generic first cycle thread 2018/03/14 17:32:45 (permalink)
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    I'll keep enough adex/nolva on hand for the whole cycle, otherwise just test 👍
     
    Does the training/diet sound okay? Trying to keep things simple and carry on with the stuff I'm enjoying. 




    Enjoy is very important but...... i'd change to a push, pull, legs (3 on 2 off using the off days for cardio stuff) implement a couple of compound movements per body part 6-8 reps with the odd isolation where needed. Don't overly complicate it, stick to the basic compounds, train hard, rest hard and eat smart 👍

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    Re: Generic first cycle thread 2018/04/23 22:14:45 (permalink)
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    Thanks all for replies! I know this has been quiet for a while and I'll prob start a log soon to track everything through properly, bit for reference I am keeping things simple and dumping the front load entirely

    Actually had my T arrive today, so once I get all my ancillaries I can kick everything off!

    There will probably be pinning questions soon!
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    Re: Generic first cycle thread 2018/04/29 21:04:30 (permalink)
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    First pin today! Was a doozy in the end!

    So with that in mind there are more questions of course!

    When would you guys start on Adex etc? I was thinking of waiting til my second pin, but not sure if I should just hop on now?
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    Re: Generic first cycle thread 2018/04/29 21:52:20 (permalink)
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    3rd pin is common practice.
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