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2019/04/08 01:15:49 (permalink)
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Get massive while cutting?

So I put out a post about my first cycle but then I decided why bother use gear if I’m not going to be a little stupid. So I did actually do 35mg of dianabol a day for about 26 days and I realized I’m very gyno prone but I wanna be my best and I feel stupid for saying this but for summer. In the future hopefully next summer I do wanna compete but I also don’t wanna bulk up till then so what’s the best stack for getting ****ing massive whiles cutting fat fast. Originally I thought a test 400, tren e, and dianabol cycle was the best with some Winstrol thrown in for the last 4 weeks. If you have any solid estrogen blockers aswell that would be lovely. I’m 5’8” 185lbs about 25-30% body fat.

Thank you for the help
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    silent rep
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    Re: Get massive while cutting? 2019/04/08 03:37:16 (permalink)
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    Gain size = excess calories, lose weight = calorie deficit even when you figure meds into this equation it still rings true I'm afraid.
     
    I'd lose some weight natty say down to 15-20% bf then increase calories, get your bloods done then add in 12weeks of Test E @ 300-500mg ew, seeing as you're gyno prone you'll want to keep a tight rein on it so may be run Aromasin @ 12.5mg eod and have some extra Nolva to hand incase it still gets out of hand. Wait 2 weeks and do your PCT wait another 5 months while reducing your calories to maintenance level. After that reduce the calories again to cut and run a short 6-8 weeks cycle of Tbol 60mg ed should do, at this stage AAS are used to help maintain muscle mass while on a calorie deficit regime and slightly increase your metabolic rate, the outcome of any cycle will always come down to training, diet and recovery be it bulk or cut.
     
    The 'game' of AAS is not a quick one, it takes planing, hard work and patients.

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    Re: Get massive while cutting? 2019/04/08 12:09:53 (permalink)
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    Forgive me for saying this but I'd guess this is what others are thinking....
     
    You sound like a typical 'millenenial' - Want now, get now mentality. If this describes you then you are in for a huge disappointment, safe space or no safe space.
     
    Fat doesn't accumulate fast so why do people think that the reverse process is going to be any different?
     
    Muscle gain requires calorie excess. Fat loss requires calorie deficit. Do you see a sticking point here?
    post edited by PartyBoy - 2019/04/08 12:11:49

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    Re: Get massive while cutting? 2019/04/08 14:49:24 (permalink)
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    I understand the calorie surplus and all I just didn’t know if there is other **** out there I didn’t know about that would help
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    Re: Get massive while cutting? 2019/04/08 16:35:15 (permalink)
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    Yes there is its called training and eating consistently .
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    Re: Get massive while cutting? 2019/04/08 17:01:12 (permalink)
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    I understand the eating and all that but I was wondering weather or not a certain stack mixture worked better for some people than others
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    Re: Get massive while cutting? 2019/04/09 12:04:29 (permalink)
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    There isn't a drug or drugs that can perform miracles, which is essentially what you're asking for

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    Re: Get massive while cutting? 2019/04/09 12:13:27 (permalink)
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    PartyBoy
    Forgive me for saying this but I'd guess this is what others are thinking....
     
    You sound like a typical 'millenenial' - Want now, get now mentality. If this describes you then you are in for a huge disappointment, safe space or no safe space.
     
    Fat doesn't accumulate fast so why do people think that the reverse process is going to be any different?
     
    Muscle gain requires calorie excess. Fat loss requires calorie deficit. Do you see a sticking point here?


    I beg to differ on the fat not accumulating fast statement 🙈🙈🙈🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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    silent rep
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    Re: Get massive while cutting? 2019/04/09 12:59:15 (permalink)
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    PartyBoy
    There isn't a drug or drugs that can perform miracles, which is essentially what you're asking for




    Oh yes there is...
     


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    Re: Get massive while cutting? 2019/04/09 14:10:07 (permalink)
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    Ok I decided ima bulk till next summer
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    Re: Get massive while cutting? 2019/04/14 13:55:42 (permalink)
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    PartyBoy
    Forgive me for saying this but I'd guess this is what others are thinking....
     
    You sound like a typical 'millenenial' - Want now, get now mentality. If this describes you then you are in for a huge disappointment, safe space or no safe space.
     
    Fat doesn't accumulate fast so why do people think that the reverse process is going to be any different?
     
    Muscle gain requires calorie excess. Fat loss requires calorie deficit. Do you see a sticking point here?


    Spot on. Defo one thing I've learned over the years is that nothing happens over night.
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