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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2016/12/06 12:51:30 (permalink)
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I'm thinking I need to embrace my OCD as a strength - I'm getting no-where fast with this flexible dieting balance ****e lol!
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ps. just in case - yes I am joking! Northern sarcasm - GN have similar thought patterns - she knows I'm empathising and respect and love her xx

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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2016/12/06 14:51:23 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby hififi 2016/12/06 15:14:17
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Yep, many people don't see that struggle. Last week I had a meal out in a restaurant which didn't have any chicken, fish or steak options. I made sure I'd had some basic vegetable soup at home, and had the lightest sharing platter. During the pizza I was so aware that I didn't want the pizza to end. I had a high cocoa content chocolate dessert which was very small, and of course my mind started planning to go buy chocolate or a takeaway breakfast for the following day.

I just had to shut it off, and remind myself that I don't need to turn what I perceive as off diet, into a binge. Very tough, very interesting.

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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2016/12/06 15:15:06 (permalink)
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I know I keep telling myself all the food will still be there in a year - I don't have to eat it all now - do I listen - do I feck! :-( xx

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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2016/12/09 18:27:47 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby hififi 2016/12/12 09:44:35
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Massive wake-up call this week.
 
A few people close to me thought I was using tanning lotion, I wasn't, my slightly tanned appearance was commented upon by someone who is a bit further removed. I knew I was eating a lot of carrots, I use veg as a filler and know I do go over the top, a lot.
 
Ok betacarotene won't kill me, but it's been enough of a kick (partly because there's something important coming up for which I don't want to look orange)......to realise it's time to knock it all on the head. It's an extention of my binging behaviour, which takes up far too much time and energy, leaves me a bit round-tummied, and well, does cause GI upset. So I've more or less cut out carrots, and am restricting other veg to lesser amounts. My stomach is a lot flatter already, I do find having what I perceive to be an 'empty' belly a bit strange and that's where I know some of the psychological root of this lies. It also has similarities to my behaviour with alcohol.....displaced habit!
 
I do get a sense of relief when I realise I can take action, and that I am taking action to change things.
 
I also know that I can displace some of this energy into work and study - which would be far, far better. I've also been given a recommendation for something I can use to keep my hands, and mind active.

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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2016/12/09 18:30:34 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby hififi 2016/12/12 09:44:55
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I know I keep telling myself all the food will still be there in a year - I don't have to eat it all now - do I listen - do I feck! :-( xx




Bonkers isn't it, I get a sort of 'have to make the most of this chance' train of thought. Chance?It's not like it's going anywhere!

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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2016/12/23 12:06:17 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby hififi 2016/12/23 12:39:35
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I've lost a bit of weight, simply by stopping the binges, eating off season diet given to me a few years ago (with tweaks by me based on recent nutrition training), and just training at normal. 
 
I did think if I took the overeating out if the equation I'd be fine, and I have. Nothing complicated, even stopped tracking - I just stick to a basic plan and get on with it. I've had a couple of meals out, 3 in the last month I just didn't go daft and didn't let it spill over. It's been good to have my body back, by which I mean not have it bloated having to loose water weight, up and down each week. Just steady away. 
 
I plan to have a meal with family on Christmas Day, around which I'll have my usual meals. 
 
Simple. 

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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2016/12/23 17:27:54 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby hififi 2017/01/03 13:01:40
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I applied for sponsorship by Harlequin bikinis. They've offered me their Level 2 supported package which is a 15% discount off bikinis, and would like me to mention them on social media. I've already got sufficient for the couple of qualifiers I'll do next summer, and finances are going to be tight now I've taken on another property / doing more courses +  getting a practice built up, so won't be looking to spend much if anything on another until I get to another final/or even get to the Worlds. 
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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2017/02/02 22:49:32 (permalink)
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Very excited, things are changing for me which mean I'm certain I'm going to be able to compete this summer. 
 
Also received some bikinis from another competitor which are going to be good to wear. 
 
Anyone who didn't see my FB post, there's been a mini - shocker regards a bikini company. I applied for sponsorship very hopeful because of my past history with them, and the experience / repeat good showings I've put in last year as well as previous years. I found this company offer several levels of sponsorship/support. One of which is a 15% discount - which is what I was offered. 
 
OK fair enough. 
 
A few weeks after I was told I'd receive a 15% discount on new bikinis this year, I was informed that I had to remove myself from a competition I'd been entered for with the person who originally set up the same bikini company name. It was assumed that I'd submitted the entry myself (untrue, I was selected and entered without my knowledge until it had been done), and I was told I mustn't be involved with another manufacturer. 
 
Totally shocked 😲 
 
The worst thing is that this other person had really helped and encouraged me to get back on stage during the years when I was struggling with my ED issues, and had persuaded me back to the same company after some issues with manufacture the first time around. 
 
I also can't stand being bullied. 
So I'm afraid this felt very personal, whether they knew this or not. 
 
Whole thing was very upsetting, all over a 15% discount. 
 
I've not withdrawn from the competition and will survive without the discount. 
 
It's also opened my eyes to the 'supported athlete status' often seen on social media, sometimes even sponsorship which is nothing more than small to moderate discount. 
 
I currently don't have anyone sponsoring me, I have enjoyed a personal discount from Extreme Nutrition who's supplements I have used for some years. I do use others, and don't pretend otherwise. 
 
I'm not totally naiive, I was warned about sponsors in my first year of competing. I guess I got my hopes up, and was distracted based on what I perceived to be getting my head down putting in hard work, and reasonably high loyalty. All but 1 bikini last year was connected, and credited to that company name in some way. As was the bikini I wore in my first year of competing. 
 
So it's not as if I'd just rocked up out of the blue. 
 
Anyhow I have plenty to wear, and I'm really motivated. 
 
I've also realised that I've not been performing some of my glute exercises properly, so leg days are about to become crippling - so far they'd been effort full,  not yet killers. This is changing now I know what I'm supposed to be doing. 
 
 
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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2017/02/23 14:26:12 (permalink)
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I've tightened diet up, and can see the difference already. Attended the Natty meet up last weekend, photos from which appear to show me looking fairly big and lean. I'm not convinced because I haven't seen the weights go up hugely, apart from barbell hip thrusts which were always poor and are now less poor. I'm combining a glute plan from RH with usual weight training from Team K........which seems to compliment each other verrrrrry well. Without specific glute work my backside shrinks, so constantly looking at new ways to shock it.
 
Foot still sore, and this week slightly swollen, can't currently bench press, can train shoulders and back. Easy week coming up, before onto the next chunk of 5 weeks.
 
I'm 20 odd weeks out and hoping to loose up to 20 lbs in that time.
 
Cardio currently limited to cycling to gym and back before and after, with the occasional 10 minute stint on stepper, XT or 20 minute walk.
 
I've passed the Nutritional Skills part of Eating Disorders and Obesity training, and about to undergo some of the assessment for level 3 GP referral course. Quite a few co-conditions which ED and Ob clients have, are covered in the GP ref course, so although I'm not in a referral scheme as such, it's going to be useful when I am working with ED/Ob clients either psychologically, or doing PT.

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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2017/03/01 18:59:07 (permalink)
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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2017/04/08 15:46:56 (permalink)
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So I'm relaxed having decided I don't have to compete this year. I'm dealing with many injuries and it would be tight to meet the BNBF qualifiers this summer. 
 
I also want a semblance of a life, and D needs an op which will muck up our routine quite a bit. 
 
Initial reaction was to go binge, now how stupid would that be? Very, I know the effect that has on me (had one 2 weeks ago which was a good reminder), and I do not need to have to lose another pound. I will carry on without the pressure of a show date, and aim to lean up whilst also attending to family social meal stuff. I arranged a plain main course with the restaurant I was due to eat at with family, and enjoyed dessert plus couple of chocolates afterwards. The dessert was gorgeous, it did set desire off for more which kinda makes me not want to go there at all. 
Back to usual diet this morning and will continue until next social things arises. Probably beginning of June. 
 
I could write an essay about my feelings re Easter and food. Instead I'll say - remember we aren't starving, there isn't a sudden shortage of chocolate, and no one says you have to buy or consume it. There are better treats! 

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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2017/04/08 21:29:26 (permalink)
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Much respect to you. It is so hard to know what is "normal" day to day life. It's so easy to go from one extreme to another. Well done for fighting your binging urge. I think there is like a on or off switch in my brain for food and it's hard to dial in anything in between. Your strength is inspiring and thank you for sharing your struggles. I think however successful we are we all have them. xx

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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2017/04/11 20:20:12 (permalink)
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Been to GP, I've been given an appointment with a GP who is also an osteopath. See if we can get an opinion before going any further.
 
It doesn't hurt when powerwalking, does hurt on and after cross-trainer, doesn't hurt rowing. Does hurt when I rotate and point it, doesn't hurt on subsequent pointing. Hurts around ankle, sometimes across arch.
 
Knee is better now I've taken out squatting movements. Still doing deadlifts/rack pulls and did do some split squat with only the oly bar. Leg training is mostly glute and rear chain at the moment. Deload week this week so less volume, less weight and I'm chucking some cardio in to keep active as well as attempt to slowly lean up. Nine pound loss by September would be super.

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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2017/04/27 12:40:21 (permalink)
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Not a lot to report :-)
 
Except I've been told to book an osteopath to treat my foot, GP who's also an osteo thinks the bones in my foot near the ankle have been displaced/upset so that it's not moving as it should. It's definitely very gratey and gravelly.
Good news is that power walking doesn't hurt, cross trainer machine does........I like powerwalking, so that's all ok! I've made an appointment with a local osteo for next week.
 
I've also had an NLP/Hypnosis session to try get rid of my desire to chomp, even if it's 'only' vegetables it's still affecting me physically and mentally. I understand where it comes from, which has helped, however the urges are still there so time to change them.
 
Weight training I'm training around my various issues, brought some very light chest press and press ups back in which gave me DOMs.
 
I'm hoping to lose half a stone by August which will leave me much closer to competition condition than ever before in an 'off season'. This time I've not rebounded as much as other times........so pleased I'm making progress with that.
 
In the meantime chuntering on with the GP Level 3 exercise referral coursework (got 3/4 of it passed already), and the eating disorders & obesity stuff. I go back to do 3 teaching days on psychological interventions for obesity very soon.
 
Also considering doing some NLP training, just depends on how things work out.
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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2017/04/30 16:26:45 (permalink)
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Today I realised I'd not had a wee for 4 hours, which is very unusual for me - then I had a think and realised I was a litre down on my usual intake at this time of day. Got some water in and back to normal.
 
Knee appears to be sorting itself out, whilst I use only low weights for squats, and I'm slowly introducing bench press to my upper body training again.
 
I'm currently performing cardio most days, if you can call 12 minutes of hiiit yesterday cardio, and a 30 minute powerwalk the day before. This is different to how I've usually approached competition preparation, and it's fine because I currently have different priorities, and am not averse to trying something different.
 
I've a 10 mile night walk to prepare for, and I want to get half a stone shifted first so I'm not going to hold back. I also like doing cardio at this level of conditioning and prefer it to the days when everything is aching. Nothing crazy going on, just keeping active and improving fitness.

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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2017/06/12 08:22:56 (permalink)
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New training plan pull/push/legs x 2 this time, and I'm taking on a diet coach very soon.
 
Why?
 
Because I need a better way than having to do cardio and take out certain things from my diet. Because of my ED history this is very scary, last time I tried macro style dieting it made everything worse. This time I'm ready to give it a go.
 
I've just been away finishing the taught part of the Eating disorders and obesity practitioner award. I now have the ongoing home study and coursework (which is more or less the same thing), to complete. I am hoping I'll have the qual by the end of 2017. It's taught me a lot, much of which is useful for anyone, issues or not! As part of my coursework and to prove I'm ready to work with EDs, I have to write an argument for me staying in bodybuilding despite my history, and subsequent health risks. That's going to be fun.

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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2017/06/16 17:41:58 (permalink)
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Diet coach started, tracking started. Some old anxieties reappeared however I've learned a lot(and I don't mean knowledge of food etc)  so able to just get on with it much better. Reducing veg intake has been difficult, however something which will help me long term. 
 
Did have a gourmet, multi course meal out this week. It was tough and I started to think about having some chocolate when we got home, then I slapped myself and said "Don't be daft". Watching the others do the wine matching menu was interesting. At first I did feel I was missing something, however several hours later I was far brighter, alert and could obviously drive home. 
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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2017/06/20 20:43:33 (permalink)
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Well done for controlling yourself at your meal out :) also your essay sounds fun. Lots of reflecting and analysing :) keep is informed on how you get on x

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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2017/06/28 21:10:29 (permalink)
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I have a bikini sponsor she is the person responsible for making the bikini I wore for my first competitions in 2012 and also most of the ones I wore last year including repairing one made by a different manufacturer. 
 
All my wins have been in her creations. 
 
To say I'm over moon is an understatement. 

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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2017/07/21 18:13:19 (permalink)
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Dieting is going well, I'm actually eating butter and full fat cottage cheese which is yum. It's not a high fat diet, it's mostly carb and protein based and I'm weighing everything including veg. The difference is amazing, I'm not doing much cardio and am at the lowest weight I've been this far out. Previous preps I'd have been on double cardio 5 data a week,  not 4 x ten minutes hiit total for the week. 
 
I am more active at the moment because of Denis' op, he can't lift or strain so I'm doing quite a bit around the house. We are dismantling our bedroom ready for new furniture, so I'm carrying a lot of clothing around. 
 
Currently got a music problem, the track I'm using won't play despite using same cd burning method. Never had this before, and I also need a remix doing to get everything into 1 minute, so hoping to engage a specialist to get it all sorted. 
 
Talking of specialists, had some very good results with an osteopath who has fixed my leg and back pain. I'm now having my shoulder manipulated to try sort that out. Foot remains painful. Had a good squat and deadlift session with a PT this week, hoping I can start putting some decent weight on the bar, instead of constantly struggling with the same low weight for years on end then I can build more muscle to go into physique class. 
 

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