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2008/05/20 16:08:44 (permalink)
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Graduate Schemes

Are any MT members on any graduate schemes? Like the ones IBM, Microsoft and other various companies offer.
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    RE: Graduate Schemes 2008/05/20 16:35:39 (permalink)
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    Just come off the one at Zurich. I Am now a contractor....

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    RE: Graduate Schemes 2008/05/20 16:44:58 (permalink)
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    applied for IBM and amex, didnt get a look in for either! i`m hoping to get 1 years experience after finshing university then apply for some grad schemes. Would really like to get into investment banking but don`t think i will be able to ( you never no tho). What degree you doing mate ? i`m on Ba( hons) Finance and Accounting.
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    RE: Graduate Schemes 2008/05/20 16:56:08 (permalink)
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    I did the IBM Graduate Scheme 7 years ago but it wasn't my cup of tea and I left after about 18 months.
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    RE: Graduate Schemes 2008/05/20 17:03:32 (permalink)
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    I'm on BSc (Hons) Computer and Networking Engineering. Got my final exam this friday

    It seems a waste of time applying for these grad schemes. Their applications take days to complete... I know i'll be getting no less than a 2:1 so surely I meet their requirements. Fujitsu actually accepted my application but then said all the positions in the UK had been taken up. I suppose I did apply a little late. Earlier today I got a mail from Logica CMG. They're going to arrange a telephone interview so finally some PROGRESS!

    IBM, Microsoft and Cisco said No straight away...


    ORIGINAL: youngmuscle86

    applied for IBM and amex, didnt get a look in for either! i`m hoping to get 1 years experience after finshing university then apply for some grad schemes. Would really like to get into investment banking but don`t think i will be able to ( you never no tho). What degree you doing mate ? i`m on Ba( hons) Finance and Accounting.

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    RE: Graduate Schemes 2008/05/20 17:14:28 (permalink)
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    i do agree.....i think its a waste of time applying for grad schemes unless you have some work exp related to the job...... 300-320 ucas points etc......and have that bit of luck. Why not apply for jobs that are not grad level but still within the sector you want to work then apply for a grad scheme maybe 12 months later once u have some experience?

    good luck with it.
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    RE: Graduate Schemes 2008/05/20 17:20:36 (permalink)
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    That's what I've done. Had an interview yday for a .Net Developer role... It went pretty well so with a bit of luck i'll get in there. The only GOOD thing about a grad scheme is that they start you off on a nice 23-25k, train you up for a year or so and then increase your salary.

    A friend of mine got a 1st class honours a couple of years ago and he couldn't get onto a grad scheme. If you're lucky enough to make it to one of their assessment centres, they soon find out just how capable you are with all the physcometric tests.

    All the best for you as well mate.


    ORIGINAL: youngmuscle86

    i do agree.....i think its a waste of time applying for grad schemes unless you have some work exp related to the job...... 300-320 ucas points etc......and have that bit of luck. Why not apply for jobs that are not grad level but still within the sector you want to work then apply for a grad scheme maybe 12 months later once u have some experience?

    good luck with it.

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    RE: Graduate Schemes 2008/05/20 17:31:03 (permalink)
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    i'm applying for some now, different companies in diferent sectors.

    i wouldnt say the only good thing is the starting wage at all, you will be fast tracked massively compared to other grad level entrants, it is a long process though with all the online tests etc.

    i'm just finishing my MSc and i have quite a bit of work experience so hoping i can get onto a good scheme.
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    RE: Graduate Schemes 2008/05/20 17:41:14 (permalink)
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    That sounds good big D. What masters are you doing? i`m considering one in Finance in a couple of years
    post edited by youngmuscle86 - 2008/05/20 17:43:11
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    RE: Graduate Schemes 2008/05/20 17:54:14 (permalink)
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    i'm doing it in management, it has helped get my foot in the door with some companies, suppose it has set me apart a alittle in such a competitive market.
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    RE: Graduate Schemes 2008/05/20 20:43:48 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: b5l4ll

    That's what I've done. Had an interview yday for a .Net Developer role... It went pretty well so with a bit of luck i'll get in there. The only GOOD thing about a grad scheme is that they start you off on a nice 23-25k, train you up for a year or so and then increase your salary.



    Consider carefully before going into a developer role....There is a big trend at the moment in getting developers from countries like India. These guys are just as knowledgeable, are used to working twice as hard (they do very long days as standard over there) and are overjoyed with less pay (compared to what they would be earning back home, they are rich).

    If your skills are IT based, you'd be better off getting into some kind of business analyst / project management role. In this kind of job your IT skills will be beneficial to you but you will also be required to use clear and concise communication skills, something that not many foreigners are capable of (in English) and thus these roles aren't dominated by cheap labourers from abroad.




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    RE: Graduate Schemes 2008/05/20 21:46:17 (permalink)
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    I got on one about a month ago. Thyere a pain in the arse to get on. From doing the forms (save them in word cos a lot of them are similar) to actually getting to an assesment event.

    You can have a good degree but if cant perform under pressure at an assesment centre then your going to struggle.

    At the end of the day get some releavant work experience while applying. Aint the end of the world if it takes you a while after uni as long as your not in some crap getting no experience.

    The more you get knocked back the better you get I found.
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    RE: Graduate Schemes 2008/05/20 21:55:16 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: youngmuscle86

    applied for IBM and amex, didnt get a look in for either! i`m hoping to get 1 years experience after finshing university then apply for some grad schemes. Would really like to get into investment banking but don`t think i will be able to ( you never no tho). What degree you doing mate ? i`m on Ba( hons) Finance and Accounting.


    I have applied to do accounting and finance this year; whats it like?

    I think I've made the wrong decision because now im not sure if I want a career in this field so am considering a gap year to think more about what I want to be doing and do a bit of traveling ... considering quantity surveying at the moment.
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    RE: Graduate Schemes 2008/05/20 22:14:54 (permalink)
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    im on my placement atm in London for a big multi national.

    i want to take 6 months off when i graduate next year but dont wanna mess my "graduate window of opportunity" up, because i know its a cyclical thing.

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    RE: Graduate Schemes 2008/05/20 22:46:15 (permalink)
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    Good luck to those who are applying.

    Theyre quite brutal to get in to but financially (normally from what ive read) and professionally rewarding, they are an absolute monumental stepping stone to kick starting your career.

    I have about 3 friends on them, 2 with no industry experience, with with 10 months industry placement, all 3 are being paid over 30k with plenty of benefits just as a 5k hello bonus, laptop, phone, mortgage allowance, travel expenses for training around uk, food expenses and the usuals.

    If youre not the one who will be career inclined, dont do it, imo anyway.

    I got into two, one i messed up at the panel interview (stage 3 i think) and the other at the first stage lol which were completing tests. Most of them are comprised of on average 4 stages, tests, assesment / role play, panel interview and presentation (not always in that order).

    Good luck lads, i think for every 1 position, there are like 200-300 applicants, if anything, more.


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    RE: Graduate Schemes 2008/05/20 23:58:57 (permalink)
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    Reg: I`ve found finance and accounting a good degree 2 b honest.....we do the finance bit which is things like investments....stocks, bonds, options, and the the accounting side which has things like financial reporting etc.

    Good degree to have in my opinion! beats media studies or any of the other mickey mouse courses lol

    gd luck anyway mate.
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    RE: Graduate Schemes 2008/05/21 00:10:19 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Stone

    Good luck to those who are applying.

    Theyre quite brutal to get in to but financially (normally from what ive read) and professionally rewarding, they are an absolute monumental stepping stone to kick starting your career.

    I have about 3 friends on them, 2 with no industry experience, with with 10 months industry placement, all 3 are being paid over 30k with plenty of benefits just as a 5k hello bonus, laptop, phone, mortgage allowance, travel expenses for training around uk, food expenses and the usuals.

    If youre not the one who will be career inclined, dont do it, imo anyway.

    I got into two, one i messed up at the panel interview (stage 3 i think) and the other at the first stage lol which were completing tests. Most of them are comprised of on average 4 stages, tests, assesment / role play, panel interview and presentation (not always in that order).

    Good luck lads, i think for every 1 position, there are like 200-300 applicants, if anything, more.




    So you didn't get into any? You got past the very first stage for two, which is a bit different. 200-300 applicants per position is also false. It depends on industry, the most competitive have that many but for the vast majority it's more like 30-100.
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    RE: Graduate Schemes 2008/05/21 00:11:02 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: youngmuscle86

    Reg: I`ve found finance and accounting a good degree 2 b honest.....we do the finance bit which is things like investments....stocks, bonds, options, and the the accounting side which has things like financial reporting etc.

    Good degree to have in my opinion! beats media studies or any of the other mickey mouse courses lol

    gd luck anyway mate.


    Accounting is doss, interestingly if you want to work in accountancy or finance A&F degrees are the least respected for those positions.
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    RE: Graduate Schemes 2008/05/21 00:15:43 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: b5l4ll

    That's what I've done. Had an interview yday for a .Net Developer role... It went pretty well so with a bit of luck i'll get in there. The only GOOD thing about a grad scheme is that they start you off on a nice 23-25k, train you up for a year or so and then increase your salary.

    A friend of mine got a 1st class honours a couple of years ago and he couldn't get onto a grad scheme. If you're lucky enough to make it to one of their assessment centres, they soon find out just how capable you are with all the physcometric tests.

    All the best for you as well mate.


    ORIGINAL: youngmuscle86

    i do agree.....i think its a waste of time applying for grad schemes unless you have some work exp related to the job...... 300-320 ucas points etc......and have that bit of luck. Why not apply for jobs that are not grad level but still within the sector you want to work then apply for a grad scheme maybe 12 months later once u have some experience?

    good luck with it.




    Psychometric tests - numeracy and verbal reasoning tests that a 16 year old should be able to do. They introduced them because of the shocking standard of both in todays graduates, particularly those graduating from some no-name poly. A first class from a crap uni in a crap degree and nobody will give two hoots. Particularly as graduate employers look for all-rounders and people with lots of extra-curricular activities to tick the competancy boxes they have.
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    RE: Graduate Schemes 2008/05/21 00:15:51 (permalink)
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    oh right. What would be a more respected degree then to work in that industry?
    post edited by youngmuscle86 - 2008/05/21 00:17:56
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