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2015/01/22 16:44:21 (permalink)
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Gyno Surgery Journal

For those interested.  
 
I did about 6 - 7 cycles around 5 - 10 years ago and ended up with mild gyno in both nipples.  It was somewhat noticeable through a t-shirt, but I waited about 5 years to get it fixed.  I don't care much about what people think so I put it off till I wanted to spend the cash.  In that time I got really into endurance and cardio and got pretty low in weight.  The gyno was still there.  
 
Did a free consultation at a very well known plastic surgeon in Marina del Rey, CAlifornia.  They also have a location in Beverly Hills.  So I knew it would probably be more expensive than other prices i've read on the Internet.  It was a very nice place near my home and people i know have gone there for other stuff and recommended it.  
 
Of course the first doctor I spoke with was the big shot, famous guy and his price was about $6500.  He said I would be "lifting weights in a little over a week."  I was like "whoa, I guess things have changed since what I've read online is a bit different than that."  I cancelled because of the price and they put me with one of their less expensive surgeons.  He came out to be about $5500.  I asked how much off I could get if I did local anesthesia?  It would be around $1000 less.  So I went for that.  The final price was $4400 before meds.  Local anesthesia is way safer, cheaper, and you recover quicker.  Obviously you can't be squeamish though.  I looked at it as a challenge.  If you're going to pay the piper, pay him well, heh.  You do get a "chill-pill" to relax you though.        
 
I met with nurse two weeks before surgery.  Day of surgery, I got to have breakfast since I wasn't going under.  Washed with some special soap called Hibicleanse the night before and morning of.  Also there were 4 drugs I had been given to take.  Antibiotic every 4 hours, pain med ever 6-8 hours, anti-bruising, and something to help you sleep.  
 
I brought he pain med with me to surgery so I could take one as soon as possible after surgery.  I've seen first hand when somebody leaves surgery, pain sets in, and they have to get home, take the pill and then wait an hour for it to kick in and they are in agony.  
 
I brought an eye cover, my phone and earphones.  As soon as I got there they gave me two pills to take to relax me.  I sat in waiting room reading while they kicked in.  They weren't too strong so I asked for another.  They said ok.  I was very relaxed. Not nervous at all, but that's me.  I've had other surgeries starting at a young age and had two wisdom teeth pulled 9 months before while awake.  Figured I would be ok.  
 
Got in the operating room and that was a little freaky.  Tools and stuff everywhere.  Just looked forward to laying on the bed and closing my eyes and getting it over with.  They had me lay down.  All I had on was my underwear.  They started wiping me down with some very cold anti-bacteria stuff and covering the rest of my body with drapes.  There was also a film crew in the operating room that were doing a special on this doctor.  He asked before hand and I said it was fine.  Hollywood...  My arms were out to my side so I couldn't really do anything with my music.  The nurse said she would operate my music.  She turned it on and I waited.  They had a drape that came down from the ceiling to my neck so I couldn't see anything below.  I also had her put my eye cover on.  
 
The doctor started giving me small injections in my nipples and surrounding area.  I could barely feel these.  He had said the pain meds are the worst part.  So I thought after those little injections I was home free.  Not so fast.  I didn't ask what he was doing next, but I seems like he had slipped a piece of metal under my skin and was jamming it back and forth under the skin, from the nipple outwards.  All the way around, in a 360 motion.  Over by my arm pit, towards my neck, towards center of chest, and down as well.  So I figured he must have already made the incision and was now under the skin.  He said this was putting anesthesia below the skin.  I wouldn't say it "hurt" but it was very disturbing and felt very violent.  Must take a lot of preassure to get between the layers of skin like that.  That lasted about 30 seconds to a minute for each peck.  
 
I figure by this time he had already taken out the fat gland, but I don't know.  For the next 30 minutes or so he lifted the skin and I heard snipping sounds.  I could feel none of this uther than pressure and the feeling of the skin being pulled really hard.  I hadn't felt any major pain so far so I was still very relaxed.  They said my pulse was very low.  That gave me some pride lol.  Next came the liposuction.  This was similar to the under skin anesthesia but with a lot more pressure and it seemed wider.  You could hear the fat being sucked out.  This also felt very violent and rough.  This is where I felt some decent pain.  Probably a 7 or 8 on a scale of 10.  Probably less but because you can visualize what they are doing, it makes it worse.  Seems some areas hadn't gotten deadened enough and when he lipo'd there is hurt and then burned really bad.  I groaned.  He put more anesthesia there and waited a while to go back there.  This happened twice on each peck.  The pain only lasted about 10 - 15 seconds each time.  After that, I was no longer "relaxed" and started sweating an shaking a bit.  Kind of like being at the dentist and just waiting for him to do something that hurts.  It's not horrible, but I was no longer in la-la land.  They lipo'd from my arm pit to the center of my chest, and from my neck down below my pecks.  So a pretty big area.  But they drew circles on my chest before surgery and he said it's topographical.  The further out from the nipple, the less lipo is done.  
 
After the lipo there was a little more tugging and snipping and they said all they had to do was stitch and they were done.  Didn't feel any of that.  They rubbed my chest with some ointment.  No pain there.  They said I did really well.  The doctors and nurses were talking basically the whole surgery, which was calming.  They asked a lot how I was doing.  Asked what music I was listening to.  They did a great job.  
 
The surgery was basically no problem.  Most of the pain is in your head, and I've been told if you're squeamish or are afraid, your mind can start telling you that tugging and pressure is pain and it can then get out of control.  I know me and I knew I could handle it, but I also know some other people who definitely could not.  Not trying to sound like a badass or anything, but I've had many surgeries throughout my life, I always injected myself when cycling, and I was an EMT for a while.  Also seen enough video of people online taking much worse.  So I knew I could handle it.  Not that it was fun though.  The best word I can describe the surgery while awake is, disturbing.      
 
Once done they said I would probably start shaking and to just allow yourself to shake.  "It's just your body saying 'what did you just do to me?  Really??'"  The nurse stayed in the room with me for probably 10 minutes.  She put two thin pads on my pecks and wrapped a compression pad all the way around my upper torso.  I never looked at my chest.  Just wanted to get it covered and get on with my life.  I didn't feel drugged so they called my GF to come get me.  I got dressed, she arrived, and we headed to the nearest place to get some food and take my pain pill.  Went home.  
 
Sat at the table and ate my food, took the rest of my meds.  Never felt any pain, not much grogginess.  Just basically felt normal.  Layed on the couch and watched tv for the rest of the day.  Went on the computer a bit, washed some dishes.  This was the benefit of not doing general anesthesia.  You feel great afterwards.  I slept on the couch with my back propped up.  I slept basically strait through the night.  Used the restroom at 4am and went back to sleep till 6:30am.  By the time I ate breakfast I hadn't taken a pain pill for 10+ hours and I had no real pain.  I have preassure when I try to push or pull or raise my arms too high, but it's not really pain.  More like that feeling when you work out a muscle too hard after not being in the gym for a while.  It's nothing.  
 
It's the next morning now and I go back to the doctors office for a checkup in an hour.  They will change the wrap that goes around my torso.  I think I wear that 5 - 7 days and then start wearing a tight Body Armor shirt for a week or two.  
 
I knew the surgery wouldn't be a big deal, and I was right.  I thought maybe the recovery would suck more but I am very surprised.  It's nothing really.  I could go to work today I think.  Feel great.  
 
So I hope this helps if somebody is thinking of getting it done.  Especially if they are thinking of local instead of general anesthesia.  I will repost here with any other info that might be pertinent in my recovery.  
 
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    n i n j a
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    Re: Gyno Surgery Journal 2015/01/22 21:37:53 (permalink)
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    interesting mate and well done for sharing. i've had similar surgery and you're right the tugging and pulling - your brain will make you think this is pain but i'd er just tugging and pulling!
     
    post pics of before and after if possible. i did - they were gross as i got an infection
     
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    tylerhen
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    Re: Gyno Surgery Journal 2015/01/22 21:43:45 (permalink)
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    Thanks dude.  Yeah I feel even better than I thought and it's day after surgery.  Just went for 5 mile walk to buy some compression shirts.  Definitely could have gone to work.  Didn't even have much of a problem putting on the compression shirt myself and it is about 2 sizes too small.  
     
    I didn't really take any pics beforehand because like I said, I've had it for about 5 - 7 years.  When I wash up tonight I'll take a pic and another once it's completely healed.  Then I'll try and go back and find something old to compare to.   
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    Re: Gyno Surgery Journal 2015/01/22 22:56:36 (permalink)
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    the healed one will be interesting
     
    my first scar is about 4" long but the second time i got a plastic surgeon to do it and there's really no visible scar at all.
     
    biggest problem with the surgery for me long term was i had a kind of scoop out of my chest below the nipple, litterally like someone had taken a spoonful out and it too ages - years to fill in. even now i'm not symmetrical as a result
     
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    Re: 2015/01/22 23:34:13 (permalink)
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    On the NHS ninja?
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    Re: 2015/01/23 17:39:21 (permalink)
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    It's the third day after surgery, so it's been about 48 hours.  I decided to go to work even though I had the day off.  Feel great.  Compression shirt and pads itch a bit and are annoying but no big deal.  Took a shower this morning.  Looks a little swollen.  Not much bruising.  Nipples are all taped up.  Can't see much there.  Flexibility in my arms is getting better.  Hopefully I can sleep on my side tonight or tomorrow.  According to my paperwork, today should be the worst day of swelling.  It should start to reside now.  
     
    Some people defined the pain in their chest like "somebody hit me in the chest with baseball bats over and over."  I haven't found that true at all.  I have been more sore from hard workouts to be honest.  It's sore, but I'm not guarding it in any way.  
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    Re: 2015/03/05 22:37:33 (permalink)
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    So I'm at 6 - 7 weeks after surgery now.  Started some cardio after 4th week and started light weights after 5th week.  Just slight pulling pain when I reach really high, or do lat pull downs, etc.  Nothing terrible.  
     
    I do have some noticeable lumps below each peck, below the nipple.  They are tinder to the touch.  Hoping this is swelling that will go away.  Anybody else experience this?  
     
    Also, how much change should I see from 6 weeks till 6 months?  Still quite a bit of change / healing coming?
     
    thanks!
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