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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/01/11 18:30:26 (permalink)
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You would get a spike no matter what the ester.. as soon as test goes in it’s spikes.. its a big misconception that it’s ester dependant. Esters is how long it takes to clear.

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Testosterone Cypionate: 5.0 days
Testosterone Decanoate: 7.5 days
Testosterone Undecanoate: 20.9 days
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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/01/11 18:53:42 (permalink)
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Very interesting mate thanks. There must be some gradual breakdown in that time then so spikes would be unavoidable.
 
Why so many different versions in that mix then if they are all basically test?

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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/01/11 19:59:10 (permalink)
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How's the cycle big man?



I'm not too happy with it tbh. I have felt a bit better mentally, and have noticed some changes in how I look, ie traps are a bit more defined, but nothing drastic. I haven't noticed any big improvements in my training either, I haven't felt more 'on' at any point in time or felt stronger at all. I wasn't expecting miracles but tbh I feel as if my previous strength cycle (which I did natty) went better.
 
I did a blood test in week 6/7 to confirm my levels and my T had gone up to 21nmol/l, which is double my natty levels. However, at 500mg per week they should be much higher than that (40-60nmol/l so I've read). At first I thought my gear was bunk or underdosed, but I'm using SIS who have got a good reputation, and I also know you and animal rate it. My vials also passed the authenticity code checks.
 
So part of it is thinking it could be me. Maybe I don't respond well to it? Maybe most of the test is aromitising, however I haven't had any high estro sides, so I never took any tamoxifen during cycle. The blood test I did was only the basic total T check, so I have no idea what my free test or SHBG levels were. I was hoping the basic test would be enough just to see if my gear was genuine, plus I can't afford to pay for a full hormone panel every time, as it would double the cost of my cycle. 
 
I did a post about it in the steriods section, everyone seems to agree that its a strange one. I was also meant to email SIS directly about it, but haven't had chance to yet. I'm usually only on the net when at work, so its a bit risky. Plus I keep forgetting when I'm online at home lol.




Strange. How much of a gap was there between having the blood test and your last pin?
 
I've never 'felt' anything major either... except for becoming stupidly [STUPIDLY] sex mad.

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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/01/11 20:04:45 (permalink)
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I seem to remember you had lower natural test level Eugene? Perhaps this has something to do with the 'feels'

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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/01/12 00:34:35 (permalink)
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The dna test can really show where problems could potentially be coming from so its a worthwhile thing imo
Also running a full panel especially estrogen and shgb to find out what the hells going on.
If you run the 23andme test I will help you sort through the results I know fcuk all about roids but when it comes to mutations I know more than Xavier LOL

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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/01/14 13:55:05 (permalink)
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It has both prop and deca.. it has lots of esters

Test-Decanoate 200mg/ml,
Test-Cypionate 120mg/ml.
Test-Acetate 20mg/ml,
Test-Phenylpropionate 30mg/ml
Test-Propionate 30mg/ml

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Animal I thought you used the Tri-Test? That's what you posted in Bretts Journal (p.198) as below :
 
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This is what I use.

SIS Labs Tri-Test 400
Testosterone Decanoate 200mg/ml
Test-Enanthate 100mg/ml
Test-Cypionate 100mg/ml

 
I'm confused now, as the Tri-Test is the one I've purchased.

 
1RM's @ BW 90kg:
Squat - 170kg / Bench - 120kg / Deadlift - 210kg / Strict OHP - 77.5kg
 
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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/01/14 14:13:36 (permalink)
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RAD#1
The dna test can really show where problems could potentially be coming from so its a worthwhile thing imo
Also running a full panel especially estrogen and shgb to find out what the hells going on.
If you run the 23andme test I will help you sort through the results I know fcuk all about roids but when it comes to mutations I know more than Xavier LOL



Very interesting.  Sorry to jump in on someone elses log (and offer) but I had a 23andme test done (hint hint)
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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/01/14 14:17:17 (permalink)
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Homer I used the TRI test for my blast. Trying this new one on cruise now and seems to be going ok. A bit more pippy.

Tbh mate, they should all be bang on, did you email sis in the end?
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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/01/14 14:28:09 (permalink)
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Strange. How much of a gap was there between having the blood test and your last pin?
 
I've never 'felt' anything major either... except for becoming stupidly [STUPIDLY] sex mad.



I pinned on the Monday evening, and did the blood test the following morning. So should have had a good level of test in my system.
I have noticed an increase in libido though, without a doubt. Although I'm horny most of the time anyway, shame the Mrs isn't.

 
1RM's @ BW 90kg:
Squat - 170kg / Bench - 120kg / Deadlift - 210kg / Strict OHP - 77.5kg
 
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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/01/14 14:29:58 (permalink)
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The dna test can really show where problems could potentially be coming from so its a worthwhile thing imo
Also running a full panel especially estrogen and shgb to find out what the hells going on.
If you run the 23andme test I will help you sort through the results I know fcuk all about roids but when it comes to mutations I know more than Xavier LOL



Its tempting, but at £150 its not something I can commit to atm. But definitely something I will consider in the future.

 
1RM's @ BW 90kg:
Squat - 170kg / Bench - 120kg / Deadlift - 210kg / Strict OHP - 77.5kg
 
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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/01/14 14:36:46 (permalink)
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Homer I used the TRI test for my blast. Trying this new one on cruise now and seems to be going ok. A bit more pippy.

Tbh mate, they should all be bang on, did you email sis in the end?



That's ok then. Yeh you would think they should all be similar anyway, as test is just test.
 
No I didn't email them in the end, I tend to only be on the computer when I'm at work so haven't been able to go onto the SIS site to get the email address. I'm lucky I get away with spending so much time on here tbh lol. I will see how this Tri-Test goes first anyway. I've got a feeling their email back would be asking what my SHGB levels were anyway, to which I would be unable to answer.

 
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Squat - 170kg / Bench - 120kg / Deadlift - 210kg / Strict OHP - 77.5kg
 
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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/01/14 15:07:13 (permalink)
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Anyway, update time.
 
Friday 11/01/19 - Week 10 final test
 
Deadlifts
70 x 10
110 x 3
150 x 2
180 x 2
200 x 1
210 x 1
215 x F
132.5 x 2x3
 
Squats
70 x 5
110 x 4
130 x 3x4
 
Well, I didn't gain on my deadlift. They moved well up to 200, and the 210 moved better than I thought it would after the previous weeks crap session. But the 215 wasn't meant to be.
It's already been pointed out on here that I haven't done enough rows during this cycle, and I also reduced my shrugs volume by half, so I'm fairly confident that's where I went wrong. Combined with a bit of an illness during week 8 which meant I skipped deads that week, it was bound to happen. I am pleased however that I hit the 210kg again, which means I haven't lost any strength.
 
New 1RM are now:
Squats - 170kg (10kg increase)
Bench - 120kg (5kg increase - I did base my calculations on a previous 1RM of 110kg though)
Deadlift - 210kg (no increase)
 
I also finished this strength cycle a bit lighter than last time, BW is 87kg (I weighed myself that night after deadlifts), my BW at previous 1RM tests was 90kg. So I'm a bit stronger and a bit leaner, which can only be a good thing. I haven't gained as much fat this time round due to being a bit stricter with my carbs. I've still enjoyed my treats, but cut down my carbs on non-training days, and felt much better from it as well. I've eaten around maintenance on non-training days and a slight surplus on training days. Weekends are usually in slight deficit as well.
 
As you know my first dabble down the 'assisted' route has been less than what I was expecting. Although I do feel I have noticed some effects such as body composition and libido, it hasn't seen my strength soar, although it must have helped. I'm fairly confident I could have hit these numbers without the assistance, and my previous run of this plan which was natty felt better strength wise. There is no doubt the test has help me stay that bit leaner as well during this cycle. I wanted a more though, a lot more. I can't wait to try my next one though lol.
 



 

 
1RM's @ BW 90kg:
Squat - 170kg / Bench - 120kg / Deadlift - 210kg / Strict OHP - 77.5kg
 
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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/01/14 15:15:23 (permalink)
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Saturday 12/01/18

 
Strict Military Press
bar x 20
40 x 5
50 x 5
62.5 x 5, 5, 5, 5, 6
40 x 12
 
Seated Calf Raise
150 x 12, 10, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1
 
Bicep Curl (machine)
40 x 20
50 x 10
55 x 5
40 x 8
30 x 10
20 x 12
 
Press went great, every rep moved so well on these, and I even managed a 6th rep again on the final set so pleasantly suprised. Feeling really good with these atm.
Kept it simple after, blasted my calves with the usual boring routine but it seems to be working as they are growing (albeit slowly) I'm sure of it lol. Arms got a good pump after, suprising how long your arms ache after doing these, like for a few hours lol.
 
 
 

 
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Squat - 170kg / Bench - 120kg / Deadlift - 210kg / Strict OHP - 77.5kg
 
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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/01/14 15:24:13 (permalink)
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A week of PB attempts also doesn't tend to set you up well for another PB attempt to finish the week off. Like you say tho, weakness recognised and action prescribed so you can move forward with confidence and intention

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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/01/14 15:24:55 (permalink)
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A couple on nice sessions there mate.  Unlucky on the deads but with everything else increasing I'm sure these will follow suite later down the line.  If you're hitting increases (or even maintaining) at a lower body weight that's its own PB.  Top work mate.
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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/01/14 15:34:05 (permalink)
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A week of PB attempts also doesn't tend to set you up well for another PB attempt to finish the week off. Like you say tho, weakness recognised and action prescribed so you can move forward with confidence and intention



It's a peaking program though, so the final week is meant to be done at a PL meet. But instead of doing them all on one day, I'm just doing each one on the usual days a train them. But of course, by Friday I'm fairly knackered. I do need this deload week tbh, I'm ready for a few light sessions.

 
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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/01/14 16:00:36 (permalink)
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Well done mate. Don’t underestimate what that 210 took out of you. I reckon you would have got it had you taken a bigger jump.

I would look to invest some chains or bands and start working on that speed off the floor. That will massively hep your dead.

Also you did RDL’s on Tuesday after squats. A proper peaking program max week wouldn’t have you doing any accessories. This would have affected the a supercompensation of the training imo

If I were you, I’d have a nice easy week and then go and pull again on Friday. That PB is there!
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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/01/14 18:33:39 (permalink)
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Cheers Animal.
I know when I did the 210 I felt like I may have just managed a 215 instead. But I didn’t want to try the 215, fail it, and then fail the 210 after. So I played it safe. If I had failed both 215 and then a 210 I would have been p1ssed off with myself for finishing the program weaker than when I started lol.

I’m going to have a light week, but on Friday if I feel up to it I may have another try. Will see though.

Chains I’ve wanted for ages, can’t spend the money atm but I have been looking at making some because standard lifting chains on there own are cheaper. Another project in the pipeline lol.

 
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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/01/14 19:36:43 (permalink)
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Strange. How much of a gap was there between having the blood test and your last pin?
 
I've never 'felt' anything major either... except for becoming stupidly [STUPIDLY] sex mad.



I pinned on the Monday evening, and did the blood test the following morning. So should have had a good level of test in my system.
I have noticed an increase in libido though, without a doubt. Although I'm horny most of the time anyway, shame the Mrs isn't.




OK. Yes, you would have had a good level in your blood. I think you should email SIS. Can you not do it on your phone if worried about people seeing it at work?
My libido is crazy but you make me wonder if my blood levels are low now! Hadn't checked this time because I've checked before with this lab and it was all OK, so didn't see the need to spend.

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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/01/14 19:43:30 (permalink)
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unlucky on the 215kg mate but the 210kg looked very strong and smooth.
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