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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/03/12 15:02:38 (permalink)
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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/03/12 16:15:30 (permalink)
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That squat comes across better in the vid than you suggest (altho I am very aware from experience that that is often the case)

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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/03/12 20:21:25 (permalink)
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It is weird though how my cruise felt great and then its dipped again since going on my blast.

 
Estrogen.

 
That's what I was thinking, but I'm not having any high Estrogen related symptoms, such as itchy/puffy nipples. I was tempted to take some Nolva which I've already got on hand, but I've been told on here to lay off the cancer drugs unless I experience any definite symptoms. 
 
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I still have an inkling that high dose Test might not suit me, I might be better off keeping Test during blasts fairly low, just above cruise dose for example, but using another PED alongside and let that do the proper work.

 
Just a thought. I'm not confident/arrogant/stupid enough to start telling others what they should and shouldn't be doing, so please don't take this in that regard.
But when you use the phase 'proper work' above, that, to me, would be everything on point - and top of that list is nutrition, day in, day out, weekends included.
If you're serious enough to have chosen to introduce PEDs, why not be serious enough to nail nutrition 24/7.
That's the proper work in my view. 
Maybe it's different for powerlifters, so I apologise if I've got this wrong.



No offence taken, I'm here for advice, off anyone who is willing to offer it. 
 
'Proper work' was probably the wrong thing for me to say. I didn't mean it as in I'm expecting the PEDS to do all the work for me while I go about it half arsed like a lot of people expect it to do. I meant it as in using an Anabolic like Deca or an Oral to do the main work while on a blast, and keeping Test fairly low just to keep my levels stable.
 
I know what you are saying with nutrition, and I agree, that nutrition is number 1. However, I'm not a bodybuilder, where diet does need to be controlled perfectly. And I would say that the general consensus of strength lifters just basically eat whatever they can, so I doubt that they are weighing out food and meeting exact macros etc...
 
Last time I ate whatever I wanted I got stronger, however I also gained a bit of fat with it. I now want to do the same but with a bit less fat gain, so I have tried to limit my treats a bit whilst still keeping the calories in a surplus sufficient enough for strength.
 
Mon-Fri I eat well, strict throughout and eat a treat here and there when I feel. Sat/Sun is not so strict, although I eat more treats so total calories may not be too drastically different. I have a young family and we always try to go out at the weekends to do family stuff, so picnics and packed lunches are often our main lunch, with a proper dinner when we get home. 
 
But you are right, I should nail nutrition if I want the best results, however, it isn't really my way of thinking and I don't think I do a terrible job of it anyway. I see people who have much better results than me all the time and I know that they are eating sh1t a lot of the time as well. I have trained long enough to know that I am not blessed with good genetics, which is why I have gone to the dark side. Brett has come to same conclusion in his journal.
 
A perfect diet probably won't make much of a difference for me, apart from just the same old simple 'eat more!' advice which we always throw at newbies, which I already do eat a lot anyway.




To be honest, I probably got this wrong. Too many powerlifters on here! It's a completely different ball game, so ignore me. Most people find it better that way!
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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/03/12 20:40:36 (permalink)
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Eating isn't just about fuelling growth... it's also about providing fuel for training energy and for recovery. It's still very much worth knowing what you need and want to keep up your training goals and to keep getting stronger. No point having a big squat and DL session where you end out eating less than maintenance bench session due to not knowing what you actually eat.... well, maybe saying 'no point' is a bit much at a reccy level but certainly could lead to sub-optimal results for the effort you put in.

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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/03/13 09:05:28 (permalink)
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That squat comes across better in the vid than you suggest (altho I am very aware from experience that that is often the case)



They always look faster in the video lol. When doing it it felt like I had stalled at the halfway point for about 3 seconds, but in the video it went much smoother. 
 
After I watched the video I thought to myself 'I may have had another one in me', but at the time of the lift I thought 'no chance!' lol. I suppose that what separates the men from the boys though, its my weakness. 

 
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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/03/13 09:40:34 (permalink)
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To be honest, I probably got this wrong. Too many powerlifters on here! It's a completely different ball game, so ignore me. Most people find it better that way!
So you're thinking of doing a comp? Do it. It's focused my mind amazingly. I was focused before, but just in a different way.



You're not wrong though, diet is important, all I'm saying is as someone who is training for strength, I don't need to be as meticulous with my diet as a bodybuilder should. It would certainly benefit me if I was to be, but I do not have the commitment or will power to do it, just as long as I get enough calories in, most of which a fairly clean anyway. If I was competing and wanted to make a certain weight, then I would definitely need to reign it in a bit, and like DV points out, food is fuel, not just for growth, so I still need to get it right.
 
Yes I do want to do a comp, looking at the comps I see available this year in the feds I've looked at so far, they are either fully booked, or during times when I may be on holiday. I can only compete in untested feds as well, because I'm no longer natty, which narrows it down a bit. I need to join a fed soon though, so that when new dates are announced I can get on it straight away.
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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/03/13 10:30:09 (permalink)
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You're not wrong though, diet is important, all I'm saying is as someone who is training for strength, I don't need to be as meticulous with my diet as a bodybuilder should.



That really is the wrong mindset to have mate. And on a fundemental level, whether you are training for aetheytics or strength, both boil down to 2 simple things. Total calories and total protein. Get them wrong and you won’t make any improvements on either front.

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It would certainly benefit me if I was to be, but I do not have the commitment or will power to do it,


Changing that mindset and having that commitment to push through when it’s ‘hard’ will benefit training. It’s the difference between doing that single and racking it or pushing and nailing that double (which you had all day).

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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/03/13 11:08:07 (permalink)
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I see where you are coming from Animal, but I can't agree with you 100% I'm afraid. Purely down to the fact that there are so many people out there that train heavy but eat crap and get better results than I do.
Also, my total protein and total calories are calculated correctly, and followed. Plus, apart from the occasional 'bad day', I am improving with almost every workout, albeit at a slow pace.
 
 

 
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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/03/13 14:23:58 (permalink)
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As someone who has done strongman, powerlifting and bodybuilding, both natty and assisted I will say diet is a huge key in progression. 
 
Yes total calories tracked and total protein tracked will get you so far and I used to be a believer in IIFYM but from my experience a tighter reign on calories, macros, vitamins, minerals and supps will make bigger inroads in to your training as Animal says. All my clients, powerlifters and strongmen too carefully follow a structured diet, its not like the old days of PL, diet plays a huge roll in your ability to perform, recover and indeed stay healthy and IMO once assisted it possibly becomes of even more importance.
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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/03/13 15:49:54 (permalink)
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But I am following a controlled diet. I posted it a few pages back, people pointed out that my carbs/fat ratio was a bit out, so I have changed it to suit (although I won’t start that officially till next week as I won’t do my shopping till this weekend). Weekends aren’t as strict agreed but I still tend to get my total calories in.

I’m not saying diet doesn’t matter, of course it is important. I just think I need to point out that I am not one those clueless newbs that come on here asking for basic advice on diet, macros, training and gear, and expecting instant results. I’ve trained for around 14 years, and followed a diet plan for the majority of them, I know what works for me, and I know what doesn’t. I have gained strength (and some size) steadily over the last 5 years, slow and steady gains but nothing extraordinary when compared to other people I’ve seen with good genetics. I’m happy with the progress I’ve made, however because I gained some excess fat around my stomach this last year I’ve reigned the calories in a bit.

I’ve been natty up until this last 6 months. I’m not using gear to cheat, i’m using it because I have low natural test, this will be for life. I’m just having a play with some blasts for the first couple of years while I can, before staying on TRT.

My first blast at 500mg/week was crap, I never felt anything in the gym, other than a slight improvement in physical appearance and better mental health, my blood results came back at 21nmol/l, which is the low end of optimum TRT levels.
My cruise felt much better on a lower dose of 100mg/week, I felt stronger with more energy and my blood results came back at 31nmol/l which proved it was good gear. So I upped the dose to 600mg/week for another 8week blast. Since upping it I have had another lull in performance, nothing drastic but I’m just not performing like I was during the cruise. I will get another blood test done in a week or so to see what it says, but I am seriously thinking that high dose test doesn’t work for me.

 
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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/03/13 16:09:36 (permalink)
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I see where you are coming from Animal, but I can't agree with you 100% I'm afraid. Purely down to the fact that there are so many people out there that train heavy but eat crap and get better results than I do.
Also, my total protein and total calories are calculated correctly, and followed. Plus, apart from the occasional 'bad day', I am improving with almost every workout, albeit at a slow pace.
 
 

 
The key flaw here is the trap of comparing yourself to others (without even knowing their full story). Eating crap and not enough are not the same thing and when eating for strength as opposed to building lean size (not that we truly build JUST lean mass) a degree on macro flexibility can be afforded within strength circles if over all calories are still being sustained. BBers I find tend to have to adhere to macro breakdowns a little more meticulously than strength athletes do generally speaking, so 'eating crap' is less tolerated. But even then, looking at others, especially others who have more of a gift than we do and using that to possibly justify the lack of a need to adhere to dietary protocols will be costly : you don't see them 24/7 so they may do better than you think, they could arguably do even better than they do now if they ate properly more consistently.
 
It's not a lecture, you have to do what you enjoy doing and I know many who have left the game over things like this thinking they are a lost cause which is absolutely not the case, if you enjoy it still do it and do it the way you enjoy and feel like you have to justify yourself if it's the path you choose and what you like... BUT, if you make an 'excuse' and it's flawed, know we'll call you out with the best and well intended intentions
 
It also depends too on whether you want to be stronger at the weight you are or if you want to get heavier too.
 
But I've said all this and re-read the last few posts and you do recognise that ideally the more meticulous you are the better

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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/03/13 16:11:02 (permalink)
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And you posted as I wrote that confirming my final sentence
 

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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/03/14 08:38:46 (permalink)
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Cheers all. Currently looking into getting a new fixed bench, as I think that is holding me back now. I've also just found out that a lot of adjustable benches are not at competition height, so that could be an issue as well.


So are you going for a comp this year then? Any idea on fed you looking to join?

 
I would like to this year, still need to pick a comp and fed though and I've been a bit slack on that one. After a bit of research last time I came to the conclusion that my best best is to go to a powerlifting gym in Birmingham and enquire there, just haven't got round to doing it yet. If not then next year 100% yes.
 


I was very very lucky that my first one was a 30 min drive away. I expect next comp ill have to travel further for it. I think if you want to do one mate just book one close as poss and take the plunge. I was focused on training and making great strides before but this is another level of focus - really zones you in having a date/target to peak for. 
 

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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/03/14 09:19:09 (permalink)
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Wednesday 13/03/19, 1+
 
Deadlifts
100 x 5
140 x 5
162.5 x 5
185 x 3
205 x 2
 
Seated Overhead Pin Press
bar x 10
50 x 5
60 x 5
70 x 5
 
CG Bench
70 x 10
90 x 5
95 x 3
97.5 x 4x2
 
Standing BB Calf Raises
140 x 20, 16, 12, 10, 8
 
Fairly happy with how deads went, would have liked a third but didn't want to sacrifice form and I'm pretty sure it would have gone out the window if I had tried. Equal rep PB at this weight, and a lot better than 2 weeks ago with my sloppy single at 200kg. 
OHP still keeping light, CG Bench moved well, really feel it on the final sets but they move better as towards the end, will up to 100 next time. 
 


 
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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/03/14 09:27:14 (permalink)
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Solid work mate. Diet seems all spoken for lol.
 
I'm certainly no bench expert but that last vid the bench itself looks high. Don't know much about that though TBF.

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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/03/14 13:11:46 (permalink)
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Solid work mate. Diet seems all spoken for lol.
 
I'm certainly no bench expert but that last vid the bench itself looks high. Don't know much about that though TBF.



I measured my bench yesterday after having my suspicions, its nearly 2 inches higher than a competition bench! So definitely need to upgrade. 

 
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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/03/14 16:29:34 (permalink)
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You could simply get some 2" boarding to put your feet on to counter the extra height of the bench, no?
 
DL looked about right, starting to round so wise to ditch a 3rd IMO

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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/03/15 08:28:56 (permalink)
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You could simply get some 2" boarding to put your feet on to counter the extra height of the bench, no?
 
DL looked about right, starting to round so wise to ditch a 3rd IMO




Yeh I could for now, it won't cure the wobble though so a new bench will be needed at some point.

 
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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/03/15 10:28:31 (permalink)
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Solid D/L double mate.

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Re: H0M3R_j4y's Strength Journal 2019/03/15 13:19:17 (permalink)
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Deads looked good mate - from the video I would say a 3rd was there but I know full well hoe you feel lifting to how videos are do not always match

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