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HCG for 2nd cycle

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2005/07/26 12:58:46 (permalink)

HCG for 2nd cycle

Im on 300mgs of test e every 5 days....and although some of you may think HCG is not required i would like to know what are the disadvantages of me taking it? and what are the advantages...

im still guna follow through with the nolvadex for pct....

its just that taking hcg will (should) help me hold onto more size, plus i'll prob waste more money buying tribulus to try and get my natural test kickstarting again...so HCG prob works out cheaper....

im 19 years old btw....

thanx for your reply

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    RE: HCG for 2nd cycle 2005/07/26 13:08:50 (permalink)
    and if i did do hcg then how would it look like? i dunno how many IU's there are but my source says its 3mls and its enough....so can u guys tell me wen do i take it and how do i cycle it

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    RE: HCG for 2nd cycle 2005/07/26 13:22:55 (permalink)
    depends on what your next cycle is tbh

    if you get testicular atrophy and don't use hcg then it could take you a long time to recover your full natural test production.

    if you use hcg and you don't have testicular atrophy then the only think that's likely to happen is you'd get gyno if you didn't take nolvadex with it.

    but as with all meds you should only take it if needed - no point injecting stuff into yourself needlessly. so i'd say have it on hand and if say 2 weeks before the end of your cycle you notice you have tiny little balls then take 500iu ed for that week with 20mg nolvadex ed too.

    i doubt you'll need it for a second cycle tho unless it's rediculously long!

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    RE: HCG for 2nd cycle 2005/07/26 13:47:34 (permalink)
    nah dude 10 weeks at 300mgs of test e every 5 days....how small does your balls have to be to be ridiculously small? or until u require hcg?

    my 3rd cycle will be
    week1 - frontload of 750mg of test enathate (thats 10mls!)
    wk 2-12 - 450mg/wk of test e

    how does that cycle sound for a 3rd cycle for a 19 yr old...well i shud be 20 then in 3 weeks into my 3rd cycle....if i can get more cash then i will throw in some stana but might save it for another 200ml bladder of enanhate for next year
    will pct still be nolva for 3rd cycle?

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    RE: HCG for 2nd cycle 2005/07/26 16:53:50 (permalink)
    cycle looks fine although obviously you shouldn't really be taking gear at your age as there are a lot of age related risks specific to guys below 21 yo.

    for me my balls normally shrink by about 25-35% when i feel i should use hcg. it's a personal thing, if they feel small then they probably are small and you'll need to give them a helping hand

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    RE: HCG for 2nd cycle 2005/07/28 07:53:54 (permalink)
    hmm yeh ill take that on board thanks

    just wondering i dunno if HCG is different from one another but for u...how many mls of HCG equals to 500iu?

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    RE: HCG for 2nd cycle 2005/07/28 12:26:56 (permalink)
    going but what you feel is rather subjective, the more I have read on this the more it seems HCG should be used regardles not just based upo how someone "feels"
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    RE: HCG for 2nd cycle 2005/07/28 12:49:56 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: super_soldier

    just wondering i dunno if HCG is different from one another but for u...how many mls of HCG equals to 500iu?


    IU and ML measure different things and cannot be compared.

    For example you could mix and have a 500IU HCG solution using 0.3ml or you can have a solution that yields 500IU per 1ml. It is entirely dependant on the volume (ml) of dilutent that you use.

     
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    RE: HCG for 2nd cycle 2005/07/28 13:07:23 (permalink)
    thanks partyboy ill have to double check with my source then

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    RE: HCG for 2nd cycle 2005/07/28 13:16:08 (permalink)
    Normally, kits will come as 1500IU or 5000IU each. That means the 'powder' contents of the amp are 1500 or 5000IU respectively. Both kits might come with the same volume of dilutant, say 1ml. So, for the 1500IU kit, 500IU would equal 0.33ml and for the 5000IU kit, 500IU would equal 0.1ml.

    For ease of use/storage/and accuracy of measurement given the very low volumes used, I prefer the 1500IU kits.

     
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    RE: HCG for 2nd cycle 2005/07/28 15:10:18 (permalink)
    thanks for that info....im guessing its 1500iu my source says its 3mls

    so 8ths week of my cycle take 500iu ed?

    thats 0.33mls so the kit will last me 9 500iu shots? aprox.

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    RE: HCG for 2nd cycle 2005/07/28 15:20:02 (permalink)
    Organon HCG kits come in boxes containing 3*1500IU (or 5000IU) powder amps and 3*1ml water to mix.

    So that's what he might mean by 3ml??

    If I were you I'd ask him who the manufacturer is and how they are supplied (i.e. IU per kit. You're not interested in ml's, you're interested in IU)

     
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    RE: HCG for 2nd cycle 2005/07/28 15:30:01 (permalink)
    alright mate ill ask him when i see him....even if i dont get it this cycle...i will definately use it next cycle...coz it helps to retain alot of your gains right?

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