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2015/01/18 22:19:17 (permalink)
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HCG on NHS?

Im on TRT, have been for some time now, atrophy has happened.
 
Does anyone know if getting hcg on the nhs is even a possibility?
 
Its purely for cosmetic reasons i guess.
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Re: HCG on NHS? 2015/01/18 22:37:25 (permalink)
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Wouldn't hold my breath.
 
And if you have plenty of testosterone already and don't plan to come off, who cares anyway?
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Re: HCG on NHS? 2015/01/18 22:54:48 (permalink)
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I've read some get hcg, but unsure if that's just US, or maybe private...dunnow.
I mentioned it and was given the wtf face. Told atrophy was inevitable and on trt for life to live with it. Your Trt NHS?
Ask the question.

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Re: HCG on NHS? 2015/01/19 16:19:04 (permalink)
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HCG can be useful if you have secondary hypogonadism , for size and testosterone production , but i doubt you would get it on prescription,  and thats just an opinion, not based on any personal experience. Would be wasting your time anyhow  if your diagnosis is primary hypogonadism.







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Re: HCG on NHS? 2015/01/19 18:07:56 (permalink)
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Hypogonadism caused by steroid use (including TRT) is always secondary.
 
The thing is if you're on TRT the HCG will only "fix" the hypogonadism while you're on it, when you come off your balls will shrink right back down again because you're still on gear.
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Re: HCG on NHS? 2015/01/19 19:11:01 (permalink)
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Re: HCG on NHS? 2015/01/19 20:58:08 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby The_Lone_Wolf 2015/01/20 10:35:38
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Re: HCG on NHS? 2015/01/19 23:09:26 (permalink)
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I don't think its scripted on nhs trt. Maybe privately. I've read that it can be used on nhs for infertility but in trt patients the test itself is stopped whilst trying to conceive. Dont know how accurate it is ?
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Re: HCG on NHS? 2015/01/20 00:38:20 (permalink)
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My thoughts exactly Medic :-)
 
Yeah I think use for cosmetic purposes would be a big ask from the NHS, the TRT is nebido from them.
 
I might run it by them on a fertility level first to test the water so to speak. See if I can get my LH up using it, no kids for myself at the minute but its in the back of my mind at some point I may want them.
 
And thought maybe some use of HCG either prescription or self administered would at low doses at least help in some way in prep for perhaps coming of trt in the future? Not to sure.
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Re: 2015/01/20 08:20:37 (permalink)
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HCG and clomide are both not prescribed by the NHS. They use a standard treatment plan which is testosterone only. I would just shoot some hcg that you source yourself to get the balls working especially if you want kids

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Re: 2015/01/20 09:06:33 (permalink)
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If you're on prescribed trt, why would you plan to come off ?

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Re: 2015/01/20 13:17:03 (permalink)
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If you're on prescribed trt, why would you plan to come off ?


OP has suggested he wants kids so I'd say it is prudent to come off while trying to conceive. Long term use of Testosterone will render most people infertile alhtough you can gain fertility back.
 
If it were me I'd come off TRT a year or so before you want to conceive and run some HCG and a PCT for a while then use a low dose of clomid (something like 25mg eod) for a few months.
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Re: 2015/01/21 11:12:32 (permalink)
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Missed that in thread, yep makes sense. :-)
There must be a protocol that the NHS follow in such situations, I'd see what that was and discuss that through before self medding, but grimreapers suggestion seems ideal

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Re: 2015/01/22 22:40:07 (permalink)
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appreciate the advice thanks. will give it all some thought,
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Re: 2015/01/23 08:04:39 (permalink)
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Of course you should maybe get a seman analysis before doing anything. Some guys can remain in trt and use a low dose hcg

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