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2005/08/01 15:30:56 (permalink)
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HST. YOUR OPION

Hi chaps and lassies. Been doing training now for as many years as i can remember but still look for advice. I am 47 yrs young on this HST training routine .Doing the 5rep cycle . Its a full body workout one large compound move ment followed by a smaller group i.e. Sguats with leg raises. My question is do you think doing Squats 3 times a week .Mon .WED. fRI is too much even tho my strength is increasing. Im squatting 122kg times 5 reps
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    EDBANGER
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    RE: HST. YOUR OPION 2005/08/01 16:46:42 (permalink)
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    Well the idea is that you are only doing 1 or 2 working sets at most each session therefore it's the equivalent of doing 3 or 6 sets per week which you would do in a conventional programme. So it's fine. Remember that with this programme the sets shouldn't be to failiure.

    Have you done the 15 rep, 10 rep weeks first or have you just started on 5 reps???

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    RE: HST. YOUR OPION 2005/08/01 17:27:26 (permalink)
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    Load of ****. 99% of people don't need it.
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    RE: HST. YOUR OPION 2005/08/01 17:30:12 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: an1mal111

    Load of ****. 99% of people don't need it.


    Don't need what??

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    RE: HST. YOUR OPION 2005/08/01 17:36:38 (permalink)
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    Unicorns.

    HST, FFS.
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    RE: HST. YOUR OPION 2005/08/01 17:42:14 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: an1mal111

    Unicorns.

    HST, FFS.


    WTF are you on about??? It's a traning method! I'd imagine from the ****e you posted above you can't have read the principles behind it or even have any idea what it is. Chill with the attitude!!

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    RE: HST. YOUR OPION 2005/08/01 17:47:38 (permalink)
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    OOOooooh. Hold on to your hair, mate!

    I have read alot about it. I still think it's crap. It's not retarded crap, just unnessecary crap.
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    RE: HST. YOUR OPION 2005/08/01 17:48:50 (permalink)
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    Ok, so that was a crap joke. Even so, it's still totally unnessecary for 99% of trainees.
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    RE: HST. YOUR OPION 2005/08/01 17:50:07 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: an1mal111

    OOOooooh. Hold on to your hair, mate!

    I have read alot about it. I still think it's crap. It's not retarded crap, just unnessecary crap.


    Please do explain what it is about it that is unnessecary, i'm intrigued!!

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    RE: HST. YOUR OPION 2005/08/01 18:00:37 (permalink)
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    The periodisation is linear and poorly thought through, [IMO] the rep ranges start to high and end too high *shock horror* it is possible to hypertrophy a muscle AND go lower than 5 reps/set. I don't like the amout of guess work either. Lastly, the exercise selection (whilst up to the individual) suggested is shocking!
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    RE: HST. YOUR OPION 2005/08/01 18:02:09 (permalink)
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    not a fan of HST myself..

    though the priciples, ie. periodisation do make sense.
    just dont think its nec. to periodise every two weeks.
    every other week is as boring as hell if you actually enjoy pushing yourself imo

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    RE: HST. YOUR OPION 2005/08/02 14:27:59 (permalink)
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    With HST, I don't think there is enough volume. Of course, you do hit each body part 3x per week but I just feel 2 sets is insufficient. It is however based on the principle working your body frequently rather than killing it once a week.

    Personally, it dont work for me. Does not mean it won't work for you. Lots of science and common sense behind it mate.

    I like "the waterbury method" found on the t-nation website. This incorporates 10x3's and 4x6's. My body responds better to this. It also, like HST, hits each body part 3 times per week. This relies on the notion that 1 weeks rest is too much and 3 times per week delivers increased hypertrophy through increased sessions.

    Up to you and depends what your body responds to. Both taining programs are written by professionals educated in their field and should be respected. HST WORKS! PROVIDED your body likes it.
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    RE: HST. YOUR OPION 2005/08/02 15:34:17 (permalink)
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    Edbanger. Thanx . Yes done the 15 and the 10 now into the 2nd week of the 5 reps. You say only 2 sets your right 2 working sets but i find the warm up sets equate to about a further three sets. Iam not thinking of changing this just needed to know what the idea of squats 3 times a week brought up .
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    RE: HST. YOUR OPION 2005/08/02 17:10:21 (permalink)
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    The periodisation is linear and poorly thought through


    If you've read the research on HST, as you claim to have done, you'll know that there are very specific reasons why the periodisation is linear, and it is certainly not poorly thought through. Whether you agree with the thinking or not is another matter.

    the rep ranges start to high and end too high *shock horror* it is possible to hypertrophy a muscle AND go lower than 5 reps/set.


    Haycock, as far as I remember, never suggests the contrary: after all the last section of the program is negatives, which in a sense is going lower than 5 rep sets.

    Lastly, the exercise selection (whilst up to the individual) suggested is shocking!


    I agree on this one. I suspect the exercises are chosen with the average lazy bodybuilder in mind.
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