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Halo'd be thy name. - My Halodrol Trial complete with bloodwork

So here is the results of my Halodrol run I have just completed. I did 8 weeks of 100mg halo split AM/PM, supplemented with Alphaform TUDCA (250mg daily) and creatine throughout. I used Vital Labs Halo-V from Radian Nutrition, whereas the TUDCA was supplied by Bodyconscious. I took a baseline blood test before starting and on the final day of halo. I intend to take a third test two weeks into PCT and a fourth and final test after completion.
 
(The third test is actually part of a two cycle trial, where I intend to measure and compare the effectiveness of including ostarine in PCT, but that is still months away at this stage.)
 
My motivations for doing bloods (and this writeup itself) are to evaluate the effect the compound has on my system and inform me for future cycles, provide further evidence that the compound is indeed genuine, and finally to assist others looking to cycle halo.
 
Here’s a brief overview of the run:  
 
Week 1:
I prepared well for this run having done a deload the week before. I had been training using the high intensity DoggCrapp (DC) method for months and intended to keep it going throughout the cycle. Diet was around 4100 cals daily, however I was not using scales instead just following a diet plan. Macros aiming for around 35% protein, 45% carbs, 20% fat. Lines were a little blurry though with several birthdays parties in quick succession. Lots of extra activity too resulted in a negligible (0.3kg) weight loss for the week.
 
Week 2:
No sides to report but also no extra performance noted. Weight/reps creeping up at a typical rate seen in the months before the addition of halo. Appear a bit bigger in mirror looking slightly pumped upon waking.
 
Week 3:
Due to ongoing issues with sciatica (old herniated disc injury) I decided to abandon squatting with weights. Also some changes on the work front meant I had to shuffle my routine around a bit. Still doing DC training at this time. Body weight piling on now with almost 3kg in 8 days lol. Definitely looking fuller/pumped every day even when cold so halo is having a visible effect. Still not much movement on the strength front though. Also experiencing progressive pain in left shoulder from training. Believe it is vertical pressing related so all vertical pressing has been substituted.
 
Week 4:
I decided to treat my sciatica like any other injury. Rest the area until symptoms reduce, followed by light rehab work, and slowly build up. As a result I removed all leg work except calves, and all exercises that compress the spine or involve forward flexion or twisting. I used this opportunity to create a high frequency upper body split, and increased volume to 5x5 instead of the DC training. It also allows me to train during my lunch hour at work so win/win. Weight slightly down (-0.3kg) beginning of week. Until now I had been attempting to stay in a slight caloric surplus without meausring my food. I decided that this wasn't working and resumed weighing food and tracking it. Shoulder is mending with the absence of vertical pressing, but did manage a minor neck strain during pullups lol.
 
Week 5:
Neck is improving as is shoulder. Reps/weight is increasing rapidly, but likely due to aclimatisation to the new exercises and volume. Sciatica showing signs of improvement already with rehab exercises and lack of compression on spine. Finally repping the 50kg DBs on bench press so definitely starting to see some improvement here.
 
Week 6:
Weight moving up now with +1.25kg in 8 days. Strength also coming on nicely. Still no negative sides to report. Neck and shoulder are now 100%.
 
Week 7:
Halo having an efect on strength now without doubt. Progressing like never before. Did manage to pull right pec though so heavy flyes are out and replaced with a friendlier pec dec.
 
Week 8:
Strength still rocketing, weight improving nicely week by week. Pec still healing but not holding me back either. Little bit of lethargy creeping in, but working shift work it is hard to be sure if it's halo related. Feeling a little beat up too.
 
Week 9:
Perhaps the only side I experienced this run was when I missed my evening dose this week. I took 100mg the following morning, which was fine. I took the next 50mg in the evening before bed, so essentially 150mg within 12 hours. Lieing in bed it gave me some concerning heart palpitations which felt like it was skipping a beat, before thumping back into action. Probably robbed me of half an hour before I fell asleep. Strength still improving and pec still healing. Definitely feeling sluggish and beat up, even after resting though.
 
 
Stats comparison:
                                                          15/06/18                  17/08/18
Upper Arm (L):                                36.5cm                      38cm
Shoulders:                                       133cm                        136cm
Chest:                                               114.5cm                     115cm
Thigh (R):                                          65.5cm                      65.5cm
Calf (R):                                             37cm                         38cm
 
Waist:                                                106cm                       108.5cm
Weight:                                             106.5kg                     110.4kg
 
 
Edit - Changed title to 'halodrol' so people don't come here looking for halotestin!
post edited by Brett - 2018/08/27 13:51:58

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Re: Halo'd be thy name. - My Halo Trial complete with bloodwork 2018/08/19 11:06:43 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby vanderlei 2018/08/19 11:40:06
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Blood results:  
 
Here you can see results of tests taken the day before I started cycle, and the very last day of cycle. Interestingly liver hardly broke a sweat, though I was taking TUDCA during the cycle. I'm not concerned about AST/ALT levels, as they are usually influenced through hard training anyway. 
 
Cholesterol and test however took a massive hit, as expected. Whilst not as high as my SD run earlier in the year, my LDL is still quite high. The HDL was knocked right down to almost nothing. I did not take any cholesterol support on this cycle. Test has been knocked to borderline at 9.7, comparatively on SD it went down to 0.5. FSH and LH are not impacted as much as I expected so should see me recover nicely. Estrogen dropped a little but it will be interesting to see how that responds to PCT. Progesterone jumped a little but not overly concerned as I don't have a uterus. Free test was the big surprise with only a minor change, compared to the SD run which went from 420 to 16 in three weeks. In summary this is mostly what I expected to see from a halo cycle. Not as bad as SD but certainly has impacted health markers. 

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Re: Halo'd be thy name. - My Halo Trial complete with bloodwork 2018/08/19 11:11:36 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby vanderlei 2018/08/19 11:39:46
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In Summary:
 
In the end I am very impressed with the halo's ability to add strength in a short time. Hopefully I can maintain this new found strength during the four weeks PCT. I did not seem to get much out of the strength component in the first 4-5 weeks and I think the reasons are two-fold: one I was too close to maintenance calories without being meticulous enough for a couple of weeks, and two the DC training didn’t seem to gel with it. I believe there is just not enough volume in DC when on PEDS, not this early in my assisted lifting career anyway. The following 4-5 weeks were a blast though.
 
The size increase whilst obvious in the waistline is also favorable overall. Whilst I realise much of this will be fat I suspect (hope lol) there is decent muscle tissue gain under there. I do note shoulders and arms seem a little thicker and the measurements support this. I should add that all these pics are taken on non-training days ie. with no pump whatsoever. A pumped pic would show even more development I think, but this is not useful for comparison purposes as a pump is variable. Basically I won't know until I cut next year if these courses of halo are worthwhile (size is my goal.)
 
There were virtually no sides to speak of bar that one instance of heart palpitations and a little lethargy towards the end of the cycle, but this may also be accumulation of fatigue in this training block ie. no deloading. No issues with back pumps, headaches, temperature, apetite, sex drive/performance, bloat or acne. I've been taking halo on an empty stomach at least an hour before food or two hours after food. Sometimes I found this difficult to fit in with my busy schedule. Perhaps not necessary, as there has only been one study done on rats that showed this was more efficient, but my personal preference is I like to have all bases covered.
 
Without getting the substance tested I am as confident as I can be that the halo was legit and adequately dosed. It performed exactly as I have come to expect after having done much research.
 
Now on Nolva PCT 20/20/20/20. I am maintaining cals at 4150 daily. Should still have me in a nice little surplus but not excessive. I will update end of PCT as to how much I managed to retain.
 
Feel to leave and comments/critiques. As always I am here to learn. Particularly interested in previous users of halo and how the gains compare to their own past experiences.  
 
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Re: Halo'd be thy name. - My Halo Trial complete with bloodwork 2018/08/19 11:39:38 (permalink)
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Great write up as always maTe👍
Bloods look good exept of that cholesterol, we’ll see what happens in your next blods. Maybe take something for it?

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Re: Halo'd be thy name. - My Halo Trial complete with bloodwork 2018/08/19 12:37:23 (permalink)
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Great write up as always maTe👍
Bloods look good exept of that cholesterol, we’ll see what happens in your next blods. Maybe take something for it?



Cheers bud! Is appreciated.
 
I'm confident my cholesterol will be close if not normal end of this 4 week PCT. I'm 100% confident it will be normal in 6 weeks time. When I ran SD it ballooned from 4.3 mmol/L to 8.4 in three weeks. Six weeks later it was back at 3.8.
 
In the next halo run I'm going to add Citrus Bergamot during cycle which is proven to help lower cholesterol. It will be interesting to see the effects when compared with this run.

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Re: Halo'd be thy name. - My Halo Trial complete with bloodwork 2018/08/19 13:37:10 (permalink)
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A great detailed right up as usual mate. Surprised at the bloods in a good way. We all know SD is harsher than Halo but those Halo results really do show it perfectly. I'm sure recovery will be swift.

So less negative impact on bloods and a more positive cycle in general from what I can see. Win ,win.

Something to keep an eye on bud, your pre cycle test levels seem a fair chunk lower than they used to be (in the 20s right?). Obviously age influences things and test levels do fluctuate but make sure you don't keep using to the point of damaging yourself in the long term.
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Re: Halo'd be thy name. - My Halo Trial complete with bloodwork 2018/08/19 13:59:40 (permalink)
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Cheers bud.
 
Yes I did notice they were down a bit. My baseline is around 20. End of PCT had me at 31 lol. I waited 2 months after PCT before jumping back in, which is where I took those bloods that gave me a 16 reading. I suspect it is my body over-regulating itself down from the huge surge rather than any sort of diminished baseline.

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Re: Halo'd be thy name. - My Halo Trial complete with bloodwork 2018/08/19 17:32:13 (permalink)
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Something else I've just noticed... my bloods on halo are very similar to bloods I took at the end of a 12 week trial of ostarine. Uncannily similar in fact, with the only major difference being FSH/LH values were not impacted by osta.
 
Still very different compounds though. Halo seems to be stronger with no sides, whereas osta made me very thirsty, got headaches in the first weeks and had loss of libido towards the end.
 
Suffice to say I'd prefer halo over osta now, especially given similar blood profiles.

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Good to know👍

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Re: Halo'd be thy name. - My Halo Trial complete with bloodwork 2018/09/26 09:11:48 (permalink)
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Post PCT Review:
 
Okay so as promised, here is my post PCT review. I finished my four week PCT just under two weeks ago. Time has been short of late, but I did ensure to take my final blood test, photos and measurements all on the 17/09/2018, just five days after my last nolva dose. Bloods are posted below.
 
You can see that the nolva has again been more than enough. I did a little blood test two weeks (16 days) into the PCT to take a sneak peek at where my levels were at. (I was also planning to run an experiment comparing the effects ostarine has on an identical PCT cycle, but I'm not going to pursue that given osta and halo appear to have very similar test suppression- it would be pointless.)
 
My usual testosterone baseline is around 20 nmol/L so with that in mind two weeks had me 50% recovered, and four weeks had me at the 125% mark. (My pre-halo test has me at 16 nmol/L but I suspect this is a rebound effect from high test after running nolva for too long last time.) FSH and LH have come back up nicely. Estrogen is high, but this should come down naturally as test returns to normal. Lipids have also returned to a good range very quickly. I also opted for a prolactin test mid-PCT just for giggles, but this was fine. 
 
Not sure why cortisol is so high. The last time I had high cortisol was on the last day of my previous PCT, so I am suspecting it's related. Might be a side effect of the endocrine system working on overdrive due to the nolva? Any insights into this is welcome.
 
Based on the results I think a four week 20/20/20/20 is plenty to recover from 100mg Halodrol daily for eight weeks.

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Re: Halo'd be thy name. - My Halo Trial complete with bloodwork 2018/09/26 09:20:25 (permalink)
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Stats comparison:
                                                          15/06/18                  17/08/18                  17/09/18
Upper Arm (L):                                36.5cm                      38cm                         38.5cm (+2)
Shoulders:                                       133cm                        136cm                      136cm (+3)
Chest:                                               114.5cm                     115cm                        117cm (+2.5)
Thigh (R):                                          65.5cm                      65.5cm                      65.5cm (-)
Calf (R):                                             37cm                         38cm                         37.5cm (+0.5)
 
Waist:                                                106cm                       108.5cm                    108cm (+2)
Weight:                                             106.5kg                     110.4kg                      109.1kg (+2.6)
 
 
In Summary:
 
Honestly I was very happy when I saw the results of this run. I am typically hypercritical and often don't see changes in my comparison pics, but I can see them here. I have retained more size than I did from the SD cycle. I was looking for a slow steady burner to add some muscle and halo has certainly delivered. 
 
(I should mention that all these pics are taken on non-training days ie. with no pump whatsoever. A pumped pic would show more development I think, but this is not useful for comparison purposes as a pump is variable.)  
 
I can see that there is a fair bit of fat added (expected really after being in a surplus for an extended period.) I was hitting 4150 calories most days in a 40/20/20 split and stuck to it fairly rigidly. I did have a few blowouts on the rare occasion, but nothing that has hit me too hard on the scales.
 
My strength didn't move a whole lot for the first month. I was training using the doggcrapp method then- high intensity low volume. I decided this wasn't working and bumped my volume to a 3x5 work set and BAM! My strength began to build considerably and continued to do so in PCT, despite going on holiday for week three of PCT.
 
I can see all of my measurements have increased aside from legs. This is most likely a result of me stopping all leg work aside from calves due to my back issues. Thigh size does not seem to have diminished though (although it's possible muscle has been replaced with fat) so might have to make up for that later. I realise fat would account for some of the size increase all over my body, but I have no doubt I have added some decent muscle this cycle. High calories, consistent hard training, positive comments and above all I can see the increases in the photos.
 
I am very happy and intend to run halo again. Next time I will use a different brand and compare the results. I also intend to omit liver supplements to see if this makes any difference to blood results. Despite ordering it already I am not entirely sure if halo will be my next cycle yet though.
 
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Re: Halo'd be thy name. - My Halo Trial complete with bloodwork 2018/09/26 10:40:01 (permalink)
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Excellent write up as always Mate. Happy to see you recovered nicely and all is on point👍

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Re: Halo'd be thy name. - My Halo Trial complete with bloodwork 2018/09/26 15:35:01 (permalink)
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Looks like pct treated you very well. List some weight (water) list a little around the belly but kept the size increases where it matters.

My limited understanding is E and Test can rise and fall hand in hand so hopefully as your Test returns to normal levels so will the E.

Look at that Free Test!!! Shame you can't keep that permanently.

Rewind 6 months and I still think a nice Epi cycle whilst cutting should be a good next step. Having said that Halo treated you well so that could also work but I know you like to try new things.
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Re: Halo'd be thy name. - My Halo Trial complete with bloodwork 2018/09/26 16:36:22 (permalink)
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Really good read again Brett ,it’s been a better suited compound I think than heavy toxic SD cycle ,I think thats why a lot of people prefer this kind of run slow and steady keepable gains than a short explosive one ,that leaves you a little short changed aft PCT, nolva has a positive impact on lipids and will pretty much get them back in range on its own ,add a little cardio and healthy fats and they will be good again in no time.
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