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Roger Ramjet
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2009/07/25 11:02:38 (permalink)
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Hardening up.....

Hey guys,
Havent posted in a while..
Want to do a first cycle for 6 weeks, to see how I fair, airing on the conservative side... I am one who always thinks the worst when it comes to sides....
 
I am interested in hardening up at this stage. I am at my wits end, my bodyfat is quite low, measured at 7% with 4 point caliper test a few days ago.. Problem is I just can't seem to get that hard look I've been chasing... Been dieting solidly since start of March.. I have tried all sorts of diet strategies in this time, as well as getting in 4-5 litres of water a day.. Just seem to have reached a point I can't get past... Taking a few days off dieting now as I'm burnt out mentally at this stage.
Basically I'm not interested in packing on size, just harden up.
My stats are 5'7'' 72kg, 26 yearsold...
I want to run anavar at 20mg daily with 20mg nolvadex daily for 6 weeks.. Along with clen/eca, alternating the 2. (clen 160mcg daily- can tolerate without any probs) and 90mcg ephedrine with 2 strong cups of coffee..
Advice always appreciated. Cheers guys...
Roger

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    Re:Hardening up..... 2009/07/25 11:19:24 (permalink)
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    the anavar needs to be a minimum of 60mg per day.

    clen and eca is good run the clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off.

    i would also use prop,tren and mast very good for hardening.

    if var is to expensive use winny.
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    Re:Hardening up..... 2009/07/25 12:02:18 (permalink)
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    Thanks a lot...
    Wanted to use anavar for minimal androgenic sides.. Doyou think at 60mg daily for 6 weeks sides would be minimal?

    I was initially advised to run primo, prov, mast, var, winny an tren by a well respected bber.. To me it just seems a bit excessive, I don't know how I'd react to one, let alone all these different aas together.. He hasnt run through dosages with me yet, but will be meeting him to talk further.. Its for 6 weeks.. But considering he may potentially be selling to me too I am a bit sussed about it...
    Thanks again!

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    Re:Hardening up..... 2009/07/25 12:09:35 (permalink)
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    primo is good but you need minimum of 400mg most use 600mg going up to 1000mg and the primo will likley be dosed at 100mg/ml which is a lot of oil to be using, this is what puts me off.

    var sides are minimal anyway but 60mg is the minimum anything less i wouldnt bother using most will use 80mg/100mg but then it gets expensive lol.

    i would go for tren ace and test prop and maybe add masteron you can get these compounds all in 1 vial so you will only be using 1ml which is very handy.
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    Re:Hardening up..... 2009/07/25 12:22:28 (permalink)
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    Thanks didless... appreciate the input.. Sorry for all the questions, but one last one. My particular worry is mpb. I am not thinning, or receeding, but mpb runs in the family. I know that i will prob ultimately be f**ked in this department eventually, but would rather hang onto it for as long as possible. I have some nizoral ready to use with whatever I decide to run.. Stupid question I know nobody can really answer it, but do you think that 60mg var alone would impact on the hairline? I know mast and test can be very harsh... Thanks again!
    Rog

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    Re:Hardening up..... 2009/07/25 14:29:35 (permalink)
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    i doubt anavar will impact on that being a low side med but not 100% sure.

    if you are worried about this then primo and var may be your best option as primo is relativy side free.

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    Re:Hardening up..... 2009/07/27 21:31:57 (permalink)
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    Thanks for the reply guys...
    Ok so a revised cycle would look like this...

    200mg primo a wk (week 1-6)
    40mg anavar daily (week 1-6)
    nolvadex 20mg daily (week 1-6)
    t3 tapering up from 12.5mcg to 50mcg over 1 week (starting week 2) and tapering down last week to 12.5mcg
    clen 160mcg, eca (ephedrine at 90mcg) alternating each every 2 weeks
    proscar 1mg daily...

    How does this sound?
    Any advice on PCT?
    Thanks again guys

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    Roger Ramjet
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    Re:Hardening up..... 2009/07/27 21:33:54 (permalink)
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    Just wanted to add, only want to do a light and short cycle as it is my first. Maybe a bit conservative on doses. But will put my mind at ease
    Rodge

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