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2005/08/03 16:05:36 (permalink)
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Helios Questions

Im planning to run Helios for 4 weeks at 1.5ml per day split over 6 sites running ketofin throughout.

Have got diet nailed down to a T, am eating approx 2500-3000 Kcals per day, (high Pro, Med Fat, med-low Carb) Working out hard 3 days per week and high rep-med weight, cardio-esque weights on the other 3 days.

1. I was wondering, i have some 29G (slin) pins here, would those be ok to inject with.
2. Is it ok to inject in the morning and then train straight after, i've read its best to train after inj, but want to clarify.
3. Would you recommend taking T3 or not, some people have said yes, some have said no.

Many Thanks for your help.
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    n i n j a
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    RE: Helios Questions 2005/08/03 16:29:48 (permalink)
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    1- yes
    2- yes
    3- personal preference tbh . i wouldn't but then i don't particularly like T3

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    RE: Helios Questions 2005/08/03 17:30:55 (permalink)
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    thanks very much buddy.

    Whats the pain like? or is it just stingy during jab?
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    RE: Helios Questions 2005/08/03 22:19:44 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: hallso

    thanks very much buddy.

    Whats the pain like? or is it just stingy during jab?


    Its varies from area to area mate. I can inject in my love handles and not feel a thing, then inject into my abdominal region and it can be quite stingy, its a fast, sharp kind of pain. Nothing terrible at all.

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    RE: Helios Questions 2005/08/04 09:36:00 (permalink)
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    ^^^^ exactly the same for me

    the lower the body fat % in the area you're injecting into the more pain you'll get.

    no big deal tbh - i had heard horror stories about it before i started but it's honestly nothing to worry about. nip you're skin and you'll get an idea of the pain.

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    RE: Helios Questions 2005/08/04 10:15:43 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: hallso

    thanks very much buddy.

    Whats the pain like? or is it just stingy during jab?


    I'm injecting in the pec area and I find that if I massage it well afterwards and keep it moving (I do the elliptical trainer) then it doesn't hurt a bit. I've left it about 30 mins after an injection to do cardio and that was the only time I felt the pain.
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    RE: Helios Questions 2005/08/04 11:04:01 (permalink)
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    Whats the opinion on starting dose?

    i was thinking of 1.5ml e.d. over 6 sites....
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    RE: Helios Questions 2005/08/04 11:12:13 (permalink)
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    The optimal dose is 1ml per day, usually split between 4 sites. But as bodybuilders we dont listen to this, Start at 1ml then work your way up to 3ml (or more!). Injectible clen is more potent than the oral stuff i find, so its good to work your way up so u can find ur limits. Ive never put more than 0.6ml in one site.

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    RE: Helios Questions 2005/08/04 11:15:44 (permalink)
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    I'm doing 2ml into 4 sites (0.5ml per site) each day and could easily up this to 3ml. Have the shakes ever so slightly but nothing to worry about. As Sub say's, start at 1ml and work your way up.
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    RE: Helios Questions 2005/08/04 19:13:18 (permalink)
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    cheers guys,

    do you massage it in? or just leave it be?
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    RE: Helios Questions 2005/08/04 19:14:27 (permalink)
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    cant hurt to massage it about a bit. U'll want to anyway after a stingy one, helps to move it around too.

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