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2006/07/14 22:45:31 (permalink)
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Help me out guys

I have just finished PCT after my very first cycle:

1-10 500mg Sust
1-10 200mg Deca
1-6 35mg dbol ed

Followed PCT from the article using clomid & nolva.

I have gained a load of weight 18lbs and strength has shot up too, don't seem to be losing it (yet). I am on CEE to try and help keep my strength up and am maintaining my calorie intake.

My problem at the moment is that I really wanna get rid of some fat, but am worried about losing my hard earned gains. I know a lot of that 18lbs is probably fat but I have also got some good muscle gains too.

I have posted on a few threads about cutting but the advice that I was given was 'not to cut without gear' and 'don't drop cals now coz i'm more likely to lose gains'.

My diet is:

7.00 - 25g whey w/150ml skimmed milk, 50g oats w/100ml skimmed milk, 2 slices of wholemeal bread, 2 slices of bacon (fat removed), 5 egg whites 1 whole.
804 cals / 72P / 90C / 15F

10.00 - Weight gainer shake in bulking article (TT) increased some of the amounts because I am heavier than example.
760 cals / 69P / 60C / 29F

1.00 - Salad, can of tuna, 50g basmati rice, 15ml flax oil, 100g chicken breast, 2 slices of granery
848cals / 72P / 72C / 29F

4.00 - Same as 10.00 but with 2.5 pineapple rings
896 cals / 70P / 93C / 29F

5.15 - Workout

7.00 - 50g whey, 50g dextrose w/water
416 cals / 47P / 47C / 5F

8.00 - jacket potato, cottage cheese, steak / spag bol / chillie
775 cals / 81P / 80C / 14F

10.30-11.00 - 100g mackeral
310 cals / 22P / 0C / 25F

I know that I am eating a lot, but I haven't really progressed until I upped my cals to this amount.

I train Mon, Wed, Fri and do cardio and abs on Tue, Thur. Burn about 500cals each cardio session.

Starting new routine on Mon which shouldn't take as long so might do a bit more cardio after lifting weights.

I know this is a long boring post but please give me your best advice.

Thanks
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    OoOGazOoO
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    RE: Help me out guys 2006/07/14 22:56:49 (permalink)
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    What's your stats at the moment? ? ?

    How many cals per day is it? ? ?
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    RE: Help me out guys 2006/07/14 23:39:01 (permalink)
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    Hi mate im 5'10" and 210lbs. Don't know bodyfat %

    As for calories its roughly 4800. I don't follow the diet at weekends.
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    RE: Help me out guys 2006/07/14 23:49:34 (permalink)
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    You wish to cut on 4800 calories? ? ?
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    RE: Help me out guys 2006/07/15 00:01:01 (permalink)
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    Noooo that is what I have been on during my bulk. I obviously will need to cut the calories but I don't know how much I should reduce them by to avoid muscle loss
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    RE: Help me out guys 2006/07/15 17:12:45 (permalink)
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    B U M P
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    RE: Help me out guys 2006/07/15 17:19:12 (permalink)
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    Well, a lot less than 4800.

    Dont just jump down in terms of calories though, work your way down, i.e. 250 cals per week until you find a place where you are losing bodyfat.

    The origin test may be of interest to you.
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    RE: Help me out guys 2006/07/15 17:28:08 (permalink)
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    The origin test may be of interest to you.


    What's this mate??
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    RE: Help me out guys 2006/07/15 17:33:21 (permalink)
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    I would say 2100 cals ed towards the end of the cut using the protocol of 100cals per 10lbs bodyweight.

    I think if your bulking on 4800-5000 give or take a few hundred cals and maintenance on say 3500 ed (just an assumption as I have no idea what your daily lifestyle is like!), imo, I would drop calorie intake by 100-150 cals per week.

    week one is 3500 ed
    week two is 3350 ed
    week three is 3100 ed

    until say 2200 is reached, then maybe leave it as that and perhaps see how you do with that amount on top of the work your doing.

    Again, depends on your lifestyle too.

    I would also wait a little before cutting after a bulking cycle as your body is just trying to hold on to the lean muscle youve gained in the cycle so of course, keep protein high, carbs med and efas in there too.

    Hope this helps a little

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    RE: Help me out guys 2006/07/15 17:41:05 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: crasher

    The origin test may be of interest to you.


    What's this mate??


    A test which determines your RMR/BMR.
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    RE: Help me out guys 2006/07/15 18:06:23 (permalink)
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    Cheers guys.

    Where can I get the test done?
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    RE: Help me out guys 2006/07/15 18:08:02 (permalink)
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    Hornechurch in Essex.
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    RE: Help me out guys 2006/07/15 18:08:44 (permalink)
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