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2004/03/13 20:11:14 (permalink)
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Help with OH squat

Looking sideways on in the mirrors in the gym, I've realised that my form is pretty off.

I don't have trouble keeping the bar overhead, but I'm having trouble keeping my torso upright as I descend - by the time I get to parallel, it's like my torso is about 45 degrees...which doesn't look right to me at all. If I go any lower, it looks like I'm going into a GM with my arms in the air. lol!

Any ideas?

Edit - Basically I'm having trouble sitting back
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    PikeKing
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    RE: Help with OH squat 2004/03/13 20:54:25 (permalink)
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    45 degrees of forward lean is ok knighty look at this guys



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    RE: Help with OH squat 2004/03/14 08:25:19 (permalink)
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    Cheers J5.

    As you've probably read I'm currently rehabbing an injury, and using the OH squat as a rehabbing tool. I basically came to the conclusion that if I can do a rock bottom OH squat with a wooden pole, I should be set up nicely to start back squatting, deadlifting, and OH pressing.

    I'm just really struggling to sit back, keeping my torso erect and to get below parallel. Keeping the bar overhead is no problem

    I'll take my video camera to the gym today and record myself.

    Cheers
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    RE: Help with OH squat 2004/03/14 08:46:42 (permalink)
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    How do these look?

    http://www.stumptuous.com/kristaohsquat2.jpg

    http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~j15/cookovrhdsqt1.jpg
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    RE: Help with OH squat 2004/03/14 11:03:47 (permalink)
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    krista has much better form
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    RE: Help with OH squat 2004/03/14 12:29:12 (permalink)
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    check out this guy

    http://www.olympiclifting.citymax.com/page/page/183516.htm

    of course hes doing a squat snatch but watch his form at the bottom, check out the other lifters as well
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    RE: Help with OH squat 2004/03/14 14:28:24 (permalink)
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    Ok, cheers folks.

    So back to the original question - what techniques and body positions could I employ to improve my form...It's all good saying "squat perfectly" and be careful of injury, but if I don't know how to squat properly using this technique, I'm going to get no where!

    Does anybody have any tips which could help me improve my form at all?
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    RE: Help with OH squat 2004/03/14 15:17:57 (permalink)
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    Study the photos, and check the videos on this link; http://www.secweight-lifters.co.uk/Videos.htm you should be able to get an idea of good form from the snatch video. Then do them in front of a mirror on light weights, just the bar or a broom handle which you're doing anyway. I know j5 says never look in a mirror but this is an over-reaction, the small inbalance and loss of form you might get from looking sideways in a mirror will actually help your warm-up by alowing you to activate the muscles that stabilise you. A lot of oly lifters do this deliberatly by rocking side to side at various heights, and squatting blindfolded to which increases proprioceptive demands and forces you to rely on kinesthetic sense or "feel."

    Alan.
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    RE: Help with OH squat 2004/03/14 16:28:57 (permalink)
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    Another pic that might be useful..

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    RE: Help with OH squat 2004/03/14 18:10:29 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by JohnnyFive

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    A lot of oly lifters do this deliberatly by rocking side to side at various heights, and squatting blindfolded to which increases proprioceptive demands and forces you to rely on kinesthetic sense or "feel."


    Looking in a mirror is the opposite of squatting blindfolded and rocking. Looking in a mirror destroys proprioception because visual stimulus and biofeedback will always be at odds. Besides it comes down to concentration, when blindfolded or rocking concentration on the actual movement is absolutely 100% because visual stimulus is gone. Looking in a mirror hugely increases visual stimulus hence concentration on the process is reduced. I'm not overstating anything, if you're serious about lifting a mirror is your worst enemy.



    Yeah it's the complete opposite regarding control but i think as far as learning good form it is the most accessible way and if using light weights is very low risk, if you havn't got the strength to counter movement with lighweights how do you expect to go heavy where the slightest movement can cause a big imbalance, this is where the control is needed.
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    RE: Help with OH squat 2004/03/14 20:41:44 (permalink)
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    Oh Sh*t you where talkin to me, i thought it was just a general statement. Well it may suprise you but not everyone has the luxury of cameras or camera phones, that's why i do my form work at home with a 5k bar every night, in front of the mirror if i need to check what a certain position feels like. The best or not at all my @rse i make the best of what i've got. POWER TO PERFECTION THROUGH IMPERFECTION.
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    RE: Help with OH squat 2004/03/15 06:19:30 (permalink)
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    sorry just want to ask what is the main difference between the bsu ohead squat and the squat jerk video?
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    RE: Help with OH squat 2004/03/15 06:30:00 (permalink)
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    It's my hope that some of the weightlifting snobs out there might take a moment to examine their biases. Realize that many people don't make the time for regular programmed exercise and six meals per day because they're busy focusing, with the same discipline and laser-like efficiency, on other things - things that are as important to them as weightlifting and nutrition are to us.
    Is a passionate novelist who works full time during the day and writes (instead of going to the gym) at night is of any less value than we are? Is a devoted dad less of a man because he chooses to spend the only free time that he has after coming home from work, helping his kids with their homework and spending an hour of quiet time with his wife?

    http://www.johnberardi.com/updates/oct252002/lp_oct252002.htm
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    RE: Help with OH squat 2004/03/15 09:00:07 (permalink)
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    so you're first post is telling people in the power and strength forum not to be so arrogant? I can tell you mate there's not a whole amount of it flying around, we leave that stuff to the BB. What we try and do here is get people lifting the biggest weight, if thats what they want. Its not arrogance about those weaker or with less time, but annoyance that people will not embrace more efficient training methods which would help them achieve their goals. there are plenty of people who come on and say I want a 2 day split, they get one, nobody bitches about how they could be more dedicated, certainly nobody makes comments that say we are superior to novelists or the like (bit of a strange comparison really). have a read of the forum before posting rather condescending links.
    welcome to MT
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    RE: Help with OH squat 2004/03/15 10:48:20 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by dscw

    It's my hope that some of the weightlifting snobs out there might take a moment to examine their biases. Realize that many people don't make the time for regular programmed exercise and six meals per day because they're busy focusing, with the same discipline and laser-like efficiency, on other things - things that are as important to them as weightlifting and nutrition are to us.
    Is a passionate novelist who works full time during the day and writes (instead of going to the gym) at night is of any less value than we are? Is a devoted dad less of a man because he chooses to spend the only free time that he has after coming home from work, helping his kids with their homework and spending an hour of quiet time with his wife?

    http://www.johnberardi.com/updates/oct252002/lp_oct252002.htm

    LOL. This has to be the most bizarre post on a LIFTING board I've ever seen. If you cant spare 3 hours a week to get to the gym, then lifting isn't for you. What on Earth does this have to do with Knighty's OHS form?
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