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2015/01/29 11:22:35 (permalink)
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Help with first EPI cycle

This will be my first EP cycle and looking to add lean mass, so just posting to make sure that everything seems in order. Please critique as you seen relevant.
 
I plan on running a 6 weeks Epi cycle using Olympus labs Epi5tane, I'm happy with my dosages buy would like some advice regarding cycle support and PCT. At the moment I am planning the following:
 
OL Epi: 30/30/30/30/40/40 (I may up to 40 earlier, or maybe not at all if 30 seems sufficient, this I will decide during my cycle)
 
Cycle support: CEL Cycle Assist (recommended dosage), Multivit, Joint Support.
PCT: Nolva 20/20/10/10, DAA 5G a day, DS Lean Extreme (recommended dose).
 
How does this seem to you?
I understand that the DS LE is probably not a necessity for the PCT, but I would like to add it in as a fat burner, and for to help control cortisol. But my question is should this be started day 1 of my PCT or a little later into it?
 
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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    skinnyfat
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    Re: Help with first EPI cycle 2015/01/29 15:49:03 (permalink)
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    I rate lean xtreme as a sup and have used it in pct. I'd add it on the first day of pct since as soon as the epi is out of your system cortisol levels are bound to be on the up.

    I smoke. A lot. And i eat full fat mayo. So suck on that! ;-)
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    Re: Help with first EPI cycle 2015/01/29 16:07:34 (permalink)
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    Thanks for the response, ok I'll run it from the start.

    Does the rest of my cycle look ok to you?
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    Re: Help with first EPI cycle 2015/01/29 19:57:45 (permalink)
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    I thought that brand epi was in 15mg caps so 40mg would be tricky. personally I think 30mg is a waste of time. 40-50 i'd go for but is up to you. Everything else looks ok to me.

    I smoke. A lot. And i eat full fat mayo. So suck on that! ;-)
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    Re: Help with first EPI cycle 2015/01/29 20:12:00 (permalink)
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    Yes, your correct. I was going to be running Rpn havoc, that's why my dosages are laid out like that. Reason I changed was because I can get a full cycle out of 1 bottle of OL, but would need two bottoes of havoc.

    I meant:
    30/30/30/30/45/45.

    I hear what your saying regarding how effective it is, I'm going to see how feel on it, so potentially up it to 45 a week or so earlier.
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    Re: Help with first EPI cycle 2015/01/29 20:30:08 (permalink)
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    You likely wont notice anything the first two weeks anyway, it seems that way with epistane. If you have enough capsules i'd just go for 45mg from the start.
     
    Is this your first cycle of anything?

    I smoke. A lot. And i eat full fat mayo. So suck on that! ;-)
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    Re: Help with first EPI cycle 2015/01/29 20:34:04 (permalink)
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    Yes it is. That's why I'm making sure I have everything sorted.
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    Re: Help with first EPI cycle 2015/01/29 23:19:27 (permalink)
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    Good to hear. Results are always better when everything is in place and ready before you start.
     
    How long have you been training?

    I smoke. A lot. And i eat full fat mayo. So suck on that! ;-)
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    Re: Help with first EPI cycle 2015/01/30 08:33:20 (permalink)
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    I'm 25, been training for 6-7 years properly, have played rugby all my life so been in and out of the gym from younger than that.

    Looking to gain a bit, but will also be focusing on strength training to try and up some of my lifts.

    Do you recommend using an all in one cycle assist like i put down, or just individual supps such as liv52, hawthorn berry etc. a lot of people have mixed recommendations on it.
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    Re: Help with first EPI cycle 2015/01/30 10:39:35 (permalink)
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    Sounds good mate, I think you'll do well with that training background.
     
    The support supps... I've usually used NAC for the liver and drank a lot of water. I have at times used the all in one and can't say I felt any different but blood pressure, cholesterol etc are not things you can measure by feel; only by blood work.  The only time I've had poor results from blood tests was when I was on high dose tren and was smoking crack (surprise surprise eh...?) lol...
     
    I guess if you use an all rounder you've got everything covered.
     
    Good luck with the cycle. Train hard, eat well, sleep a lot and it will be sweet.

    I smoke. A lot. And i eat full fat mayo. So suck on that! ;-)
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    Re: Help with first EPI cycle 2015/01/30 21:32:52 (permalink)
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    Smoking crack - lol

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    Re: Help with first EPI cycle 2015/01/30 23:05:33 (permalink)
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    I've got issues... lol

    I smoke. A lot. And i eat full fat mayo. So suck on that! ;-)
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    Re: Help with first EPI cycle 2015/01/31 01:05:14 (permalink)
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    If you don't notice it in the first few weeks it isn't Epi.

    Above responses are spot on.
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    Re: Help with first EPI cycle 2015/02/02 01:00:47 (permalink)
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    simonboyle
    If you don't notice it in the first few weeks it isn't Epi.

    Above responses are spot on.



    what do you mean by this? do you not recommend OL Epi5tane? 
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    Re: Help with first EPI cycle 2015/02/02 11:04:31 (permalink)
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    If you don't notice it in the first few weeks it isn't Epi.

    Above responses are spot on.



    what do you mean by this? do you not recommend OL Epi5tane? 

    not at all, just pointing out there is no "kick in time" for orals beyond the time to digest.

    Significant results, yeah, couple of weeks, but I gained about 3-4lbs first week on Epi.
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    Re: Help with first EPI cycle 2015/02/02 15:57:44 (permalink)
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    Epi is a not noticeable PH at the beginning,but at long term will help you for sure
    M1T is for example
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    Re: Help with first EPI cycle 2015/02/03 14:05:51 (permalink)
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    Oh ok thanks, Yes I am aware its a slow starter.

    From what I read it's unlikely I'll notice much of an effect until around the 3rd week.
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    Re: Help with first EPI cycle 2015/02/03 14:55:03 (permalink)
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    suppose it depends on what one describes as noticeable, for me, gaining 3lbs in a week is noticeable, it isn't the 10 you might get in 10 days on m1t, but you still notice 3lbs, and feel it. but hey ho 
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