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2008/05/21 12:34:56 (permalink)
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Help with routine

Hi there,

I've been training for around a year to build mass. I've been quite successful (I've put on around a stone and a half of muscle). Anyway I've decided to change my routine to Frankie NY's mass building routine. The only problem I have with it is I have bad knees and I struggle with Deadlifts and Squats. I sometimes painfuly mamage them but then I suffer for weeks after because of it, so it's best not to bother. I was wondering if anyone could help advise me on what to incorporate into the routine instead. I'm fine with doing stiff leg deadlifts on leg day. Leg extensions and hamstring curls are fine, as are calf raises.

Any advice would be appreciated.
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    globogym
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    RE: Help with routine 2008/05/23 14:17:05 (permalink)
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    to be honest theres nothing that can match squats and deadlifts for building mass. You really need to try to incorporate these into your workout. i suspect you aren't using correct form with these, are you going below parrellel on your squat?
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    RE: Help with routine 2008/05/23 14:39:54 (permalink)
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    If you can use leg ext, curl and sldl, I can't see why you can't squat or deadlift tbh.

    How about leg press?

      




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    RE: Help with routine 2008/05/24 20:21:05 (permalink)
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    Leg presses are basically the same movement for the knees as deadlifts and squats. Ham string curls and leg extensions are completely different. I have problems when I'm putting weight on my knees when they are bent. Even squatting with my own weight or getting up out of a chair is painful. It's not something that has come about from training. I've had problems with my right knee for about 6 years. It's just gradualy got worse and then I got it in the left one too. I had physio which didn't help, I've now been reffered to a knee specialist by my doctor. I'm 26 and I already have the knees of an old man.
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    RE: Help with routine 2008/05/24 20:23:39 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: globogym

    to be honest theres nothing that can match squats and deadlifts for building mass. You really need to try to incorporate these into your workout. i suspect you aren't using correct form with these, are you going below parrellel on your squat?



    It kills before I even get to parallel
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    RE: Help with routine 2008/05/24 21:54:25 (permalink)
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    Keep the routine as it is, start light (empty bar even) and gradually increase the weight each workout.

    What is the problem with your knees?

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    RE: Help with routine 2008/05/28 14:53:30 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: shibadybob

    Keep the routine as it is, start light (empty bar even) and gradually increase the weight each workout.

    What is the problem with your knees?




    I'm hoping the knee specialist will be able to tell me. Xrays didn't show anything so it must be soft tissue rather than bone which is a good thing I suppose.

    I gave deadlifts another try on sunday. I worked on my form and I realised i was letting my legs do too much of the work. The 1st few reps were still a bit painful but once I got into the swing of things it was fine. I enjoyed doing them.

    I'm gonna give squats another go on thursday.
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