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Help with weight loss

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2009/07/23 21:00:02 (permalink)

Help with weight loss

Hi All,
 
I'm currently dieting to lose weight. Currently 19st from 19st 12.

Started going to the gym 3 or 4 x  a week, generally doing;

10 mins on bike
Weights
10 mins on bike cool down

so about 50 mins a session.

I've had to change my diet quite substantially and currently a typical day would have been 2 meals a day and one of them consisting of choc/crisps at lunch to large dinner at night.

Now....I'm staggering food and grazing more. Typical day would be;

Breakfast - 3 large eggs scrambled/2 slices dry toast
Mid Morning - Apple and Promax Diet Shake
Lunch - Chicken breast grilled and wholemeal bun
Mid Afternoon - Promax Diet Shake
Evening - 300g Steak Wholemeal Pasta
Late evening - Muller Lite Yogurt

on days I train I have some fruit punch creatine mix before and after training and sometimes a maximuscle maxi milk shake.

every day I have 6 x CLA and 3 Thermobol.

My question is what should I be looking at changing or adding and why?
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    Re:Help with weight loss 2009/07/23 22:06:21 (permalink)
    I'd take out the thermobol and maybe the CLA, wasting your money until you get that diet sorted better. Your diet's lacking in veg and I'd exchange pasta and bread for a different carb source.
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    Re:Help with weight loss 2009/07/23 23:29:04 (permalink)
    Hi Kitty,

    Thanks for responding, could you help with the diet......I hate veg generally but will have things like asparagus, spinich but could really do with the diet help as I think I'm relying on these shakes too much.  Could you also let me know about different carb sources other than the wholemeal pasta.

    Very new so would appreicate any advice.

    Thanks,

    Paul
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    Re:Help with weight loss 2009/07/23 23:50:51 (permalink)
    Couscous, quinoa, baked potato, brown rice, rolled oats are the common ones.
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    Re:Help with weight loss 2009/07/23 23:52:57 (permalink)
    brown rice and baked potatoes are fairly common replacements for me already. I actually thought the wholemeal pasta was better so used that as an example!! I'll google Quinoa.
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    Re:Help with weight loss 2009/07/23 23:58:58 (permalink)
    Quinoa is great as it has a relatively high percentage of protein for a grain.
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    Re:Help with weight loss 2009/07/24 01:28:51 (permalink)
    Kitty

    Can I just ask why you would take out the bread and pasta?

    Not disagreeing at all, just curious.. I love bread and trying to loose a little fat myself and struggeling... is there a reason bread and pasta (wholemeal) is worse than other carb sources
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    Re:Help with weight loss 2009/07/24 09:10:57 (permalink)
    Mark, bread and pasta are ok sources of carbs but I have found personally and also seen with many others that they seem to slow down weight loss. Even Slimming World have now further limited the amount of wheat based things I believe . If you're just 'eating healthy' then fine, leave them in but if you want to lose weight, try at least 3 weeks without and see if there's any difference.

    Hammerpaul, basmati rice is a good one too as well as the list octatonic gave. You could also try sweet potato.

    Solid food is better than shakes especially when looking to lose weight. Stops you feeling hungry too much also.

    If you don't like veg then try making home made soup with various veg and liquidise it. Not the best way as you lose the benefit of some of the fibre but you will at least get your nutrients. Asparagus and spinach are fine if you like them. but you could do with more variety.
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    Re:Help with weight loss 2009/07/24 11:12:35 (permalink)
    cheers kitty will bear that in mind.


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    Re:Help with weight loss 2009/07/24 12:09:56 (permalink)
    you know baked potatoes are they okay to have? cuz there high in GI complex so surely that means they'll be a insulin rush in your system which is not what you want....
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    Re:Help with weight loss 2009/07/24 12:14:44 (permalink)
    They're not THAT high, more mid range and better if you have the skin too. Don't forget that when eating foods in combination the GI values are totally different due to their combined effect.
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    Re:Help with weight loss 2009/07/24 12:43:29 (permalink)
    it would be really helpful if there was a recommended figure of GI that you dont want to go above otherwise its more likely fat will be stored.. If you know what i mean?

    Like say the figure was 100, and u ate 2 items which were only 40 each then you'll be fine, but if you ate 2 that were 60 then there would be quite a lot of fat stored.

    if u know what i mean lool
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    Re:Help with weight loss 2009/07/24 13:02:47 (permalink)
    All baked potatoes are not created equal as well.
    If they have been stewing in roast fat for an hour they are a lot worse for you that if they are cooked separately with a bit of olive oil.

    I prefer jacket potatoes- I microwave the lil buggers.
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    Re:Help with weight loss 2009/07/26 08:49:47 (permalink)
    I'm really struggling to create a diet based on what I can eat.

    I've added some flavoured rolled oats to have in the mornings and I've worked out my maintenence calories would be around 2800 so I need around 2300 calories a day.

    Based on this thread and knowing I'm getting to the gym 3 or 4 x a week would anyone do me a plan or could is their any fitness guru's who I could buy a plan from?
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    Re:Help with weight loss 2009/07/26 10:53:13 (permalink)
    What is your height?

    I am just doing something right now but I can work something out that might suit you.
    Do you eat fish (Salmon/Tuna)?
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    Re:Help with weight loss 2009/07/26 12:40:12 (permalink)
    I'm 5ft 10. Yeah can eat fish - prefer it fresh rather than out of tins but can manage it.
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    Re:Help with weight loss 2009/07/26 15:11:40 (permalink)
    I would have thought BMR would have been closer to 2400/day if you are 265lbs and 5'10".
    How old are you?
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    Re:Help with weight loss 2009/07/26 15:32:48 (permalink)
    34.

    I used some online calculator and rounded down
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    Re:Help with weight loss 2009/07/26 16:45:58 (permalink)
    can anybody help me please, i have currently been training for about 6 months and managed to hit my target weight of 13 stone and 9 pounds however, i feel like i would have a better appearance if i shredded 9 pounds and remaind at 13 stone. what is the best way to shred the 9 pounds, i currently do not use any supplements whatsoever and a good buddy of mine has recommended thermobolic fat burners. is this a good idea??? i do not do any cardio apart from a 3 min warm up before hittin the weights. any ideas will be welcomed, cheers
     

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    Re:Help with weight loss 2009/07/27 06:49:26 (permalink)
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    can anybody help me please, i have currently been training for about 6 months and managed to hit my target weight of 13 stone and 9 pounds however, i feel like i would have a better appearance if i shredded 9 pounds and remaind at 13 stone. what is the best way to shred the 9 pounds, i currently do not use any supplements whatsoever and a good buddy of mine has recommended thermobolic fat burners. is this a good idea??? i do not do any cardio apart from a 3 min warm up before hittin the weights. any ideas will be welcomed, cheers
     


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