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2014/12/03 12:40:13 (permalink)

High levels of creatinine ?

So I've recently been diagnosed with an underactive thyroid and sleep apnea and now there's a new addition to my story.
 
This morning I've had a call from my doc's telling me that they did some other blood tests with the thyroid tests, I wasn't aware of these tests till this morning but the nurse tells me I've got high levels of creatinine and the doc has asked me to go for more blood tests.
I'm not wasting any time and going asap for more bloods done.
 
Has anyone ever had this problem ? what's the chances its nothing serious ? I haven't noticed any symptoms outside the ones that are associated with the apnea and thyroid issue.
 
I'm not using creatine now or recently btw.
 
Thanks in advance guys and hopefully someone can put my mind at ease as googling this **** has got me bricking it a little

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    Re: High levels of creatinine ? 2014/12/03 13:18:46 (permalink)
    It would be speculation to say what it is causing that. Best to see what the bloods say.
     
    I wonder if anyone has any insight into what classifies as high levels of creatinine for a general population?

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    Re: High levels of creatinine ? 2014/12/03 13:23:01 (permalink)
    Why wouldn't you just speak to your doctor who will have the rest of your bloods and can give you an informed answer.

    If someone on here tells you they nearly died from kidney disease it's not really going to put your mind at rest lol.

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    Re: High levels of creatinine ? 2014/12/03 14:14:01 (permalink)
    When I had a kidney stone they said I had a high level of creatinine (but not that it was the cause, just something they noticed) and asked if I took creatine supplements, I said yes and they weren't concerned as the high levels were a result of that rather than anything else.
     
    If it's high and you're not taking any creatine, then I don't know if that means there is a problem but it's something you'll have to ask them.
     
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    Re: High levels of creatinine ? 2014/12/03 15:52:18 (permalink)
    Lol I know what you're saying. My hope was someone would chime in and say they had the same issue and it was a minor infection or something simple like that. Which of course doesn't really mean anything to me but it's something to hope for rather than dred the worse....

    I can't go for more bloods till first thing in the morning because I'm at work till 10 tonight and god knows how long my **** doctors will take to get my results and get back to me. My doc said to just keep my currently booked appointment which ain't till the 17th. Hopefully they will call me before then but it wouldn't surprise me if they left me hanging till the 17th. That's why I thought I'd ask here for info in the meantime....

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    Re: High levels of creatinine ? 2014/12/03 15:56:03 (permalink)
    Hopefully it's nothing serious. I don't use creatine but I do eat quite a lot of red meat, I'm not sure if the natural levels of creatine in beef could cause it to be high at all...

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    Re: High levels of creatinine ? 2014/12/03 16:36:26 (permalink)
    Creatine is also in pre-workouts etc

     
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    Re: High levels of creatinine ? 2014/12/03 16:36:56 (permalink)
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    Re: High levels of creatinine ? 2014/12/03 18:43:34 (permalink)
    Just been reading this if its any help, maybe the last line?
     
    An increase in serum creatinine can result from increased ingestion of cooked meat (which contains creatinine converted from creatine by the heat from cooking) or increased intake of protein and creatine supplements, in excess of the recommended dosage. Creatine is present in the organs, muscles, and body fluids of animals. Creatine supplements promote protein synthesis and are a quickly available source of energy for muscle contraction, hence they are used to enhance athletic performance. Furthermore, intense exercise can increase creatinine by increasing muscle breakdown

     
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    Re: High levels of creatinine ? 2014/12/03 18:52:06 (permalink)
    A close friend of mine had high creatinine levels in his blood which were caused by a kidney infection. From what I can remember the kidneys work to filter that out, and when there's a problem the filtration process isn't as efficient.
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    Re: High levels of creatinine ? 2014/12/03 19:25:13 (permalink)
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    Just been reading this if its any help, maybe the last line?
     
    An increase in serum creatinine can result from increased ingestion of cooked meat (which contains creatinine converted from creatine by the heat from cooking) or increased intake of protein and creatine supplements, in excess of the recommended dosage. Creatine is present in the organs, muscles, and body fluids of animals. Creatine supplements promote protein synthesis and are a quickly available source of energy for muscle contraction, hence they are used to enhance athletic performance. Furthermore, intense exercise can increase creatinine by increasing muscle breakdown

     
    Full read here http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.g..mc/articles/PMC3383162/




    This. Further tests may include repeat renal function, urine albumin:creatinine ration/24 hour protein to ascertain if anything more serious is going on. 
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    Re: High levels of creatinine ? 2014/12/05 07:23:14 (permalink)
    You tend to get high levels of creatine from eating carrots.
    It won't kill you, straight away
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    Re: High levels of creatinine ? 2014/12/05 18:52:09 (permalink)
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    It would be speculation to say what it is causing that. Best to see what the bloods say.
     
    I wonder if anyone has any insight into what classifies as high levels of creatinine for a general population?


    Chronic kidney disease is not diagnosed directly from creatinine. Serum creatinine, age and sex are used to calculate the glomerular filtration rate (GFR) which is a measure of how efficiently the kidney removes creatinine from the blood.
    Increased muscle mass can raise creatinine. Meat meals and creatine can cause transient but small rises in serum creatinine.
    If the estimated GFR is low further tests are done of which the first will be urine albumin/creatinine ratio.
    NB high creatinine means low GFR.
    Creatinine measurements are not foolproof. The modern method is enzymatic and is very accurate and precise. Unfortunately it's much more expensive ( It costs my lab about £40,000 per year to do enzymatic rather than Jaffe creatinine so most labs still use the older method.
    My own work evaluating the new method showed that in some people (myself included) the old method had higher results - I put this down to my use of creatine. It's not a huge difference but was enough to put me in the stage 2 CKD risk group. Urine tests then confirmed I did not have CKD.

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    Re: High levels of creatinine ? 2014/12/05 19:27:56 (permalink)
    It's ONE of several markers. And, as they are intended to be, when high (assuming not cos you took mono) docs take a look at your other markers to see if they indicate an issue.

     
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    Re: High levels of creatinine ? 2014/12/06 15:56:02 (permalink)
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    So I've recently been diagnosed with an underactive thyroid and sleep apnea and now there's a new addition to my story.
     
    This morning I've had a call from my doc's telling me that they did some other blood tests with the thyroid tests, I wasn't aware of these tests till this morning but the nurse tells me I've got high levels of creatinine and the doc has asked me to go for more blood tests.
    I'm not wasting any time and going asap for more bloods done.
     
    Has anyone ever had this problem ? what's the chances its nothing serious ? I haven't noticed any symptoms outside the ones that are associated with the apnea and thyroid issue.
     
    I'm not using creatine now or recently btw.
     
    Thanks in advance guys and hopefully someone can put my mind at ease as googling this **** has got me bricking it a little




     
    How did you get diagnosed for sleep apnea and what where your symptoms? I think i may have it but not sure how to get this checked out?
     
    Thanks
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    Re: High levels of creatinine ? 2014/12/06 17:02:21 (permalink)
    I would take heart from the fact they see no need to rush your tests. When a doctor believes there is something to be concerned about tests are generally rushed through. Sounds like this is more or less routine.
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