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2018/11/17 15:07:40 (permalink)
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How big can you get with just Anabolic Steroids

Today in pro bodybuilding you see tons of mass monster freaks like ronnie coleman markus ruhl phil heath but they all take GH & Insulin but how big can you get with just anabolics test deca tren dball etc etc and does anyone know when bodybuilders power lifters weightlifters etc or just athletes in general started taking GH & Insulin can't seem to find any information any where about it 
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Re: How big can you get with just Anabolic Steroids 2018/11/17 16:23:21 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby for1the1emperor 2018/11/17 20:48:41
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Take a look at the classic era....Arnold, Franco, Sergio, Mentzer and Serge simples.

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Re: How big can you get with just Anabolic Steroids 2018/11/17 16:47:45 (permalink)
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Not much without masses of food and heavy lifting 







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Re: How big can you get with just Anabolic Steroids 2018/11/17 19:03:19 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby for1the1emperor 2018/11/17 20:48:33
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I think people grossly overestimate how much of a factor GH or even insulin is to the size of guys like Coleman or Ruhl. GH in particular is an extremely weak anabolic, Frank Zane was one of the first top bodybuilders to use GH and he was the smallest guy on stage, and even insulin is just not as good as anabolic steroids. Even today I bet most top pros just use the old tried and proven AAS to get massive and don't waste their money on those fancier PEDs which ultimately give them far less bang for buck, remember these aren't footballers getting paid millions a year.
 
Everybody is always looking for that one factor that explains everything and why those guys get so big when reality is more complex than that. Ultimately they got that big because they did everything they could to get that big, which doesn't just mean potentially using more drugs and at higher doses but also eating insane amounts of food to gain weight at all costs, and genetics play the biggest role of all Ronnie Coleman training natural can probably get bigger than you or me using all the PEDs in the world.
 
So this is really a moot question because what they used or didn't use tells you absolutely nothing at all about how big YOU can get.
post edited by Uriel - 2018/11/17 19:04:41
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Re: How big can you get with just Anabolic Steroids 2018/11/17 19:19:20 (permalink)
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Genetic response to drugs food and training determines most of it.
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Re: How big can you get with just Anabolic Steroids 2018/11/17 22:05:16 (permalink)
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As above answers, AAS are going to be the main agents with muscle gain, yes genetics override everything but if you have great genetics and also use Steroids .......
 
If you are a professional builder or someone with the resources and the desire to get as big as possible then you are going to use whatever you can to grow. 
 
The amount of money the top builders spend on gear, GH, peptides   etc is eye watering. But if you are making money from your physique then its a good investment.
 
At the top level even relatively small improvements are worth the money and effort, it gets exponentially more difficult ,a gain of just a few pounds off season is considered and achievement for an advanced builder.
 
Then you have the other benefits of GH, tendon health, the "G.H. skin" improved sleep, appetite; while these aren`t direct benefits they  all help in the pursuit of success in bodybuilding. 

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Re: How big can you get with just Anabolic Steroids 2018/11/18 00:55:41 (permalink)
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I think people grossly overestimate how much of a factor GH or even insulin is to the size of guys like Coleman or Ruhl. GH in particular is an extremely weak anabolic, Frank Zane was one of the first top bodybuilders to use GH and he was the smallest guy on stage, and even insulin is just not as good as anabolic steroids. Even today I bet most top pros just use the old tried and proven AAS to get massive and don't waste their money on those fancier PEDs which ultimately give them far less bang for buck, remember these aren't footballers getting paid millions a year.
 
Everybody is always looking for that one factor that explains everything and why those guys get so big when reality is more complex than that. Ultimately they got that big because they did everything they could to get that big, which doesn't just mean potentially using more drugs and at higher doses but also eating insane amounts of food to gain weight at all costs, and genetics play the biggest role of all Ronnie Coleman training natural can probably get bigger than you or me using all the PEDs in the world.
 
So this is really a moot question because what they used or didn't use tells you absolutely nothing at all about how big YOU can get.


^^^ what he said.
Gh doesn't grow muscle, and insulin will make you look it whilst you take it which is fine for pro athletes on stage, but goes stttaiht away when you stop so in that respect its just for show. Literally.

Eat, train, aas, repeat. If you have **** he genetics which most of us do as far as looking like a bbder, you can still easily get to 100kg+ at 10-12% bodyfat
post edited by stewedw - 2018/11/19 20:48:25

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Re: How big can you get with just Anabolic Steroids 2018/11/18 19:53:41 (permalink)
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 Ultimately they got that big because they did everything they could to get that big, which doesn't just mean potentially using more drugs and at higher doses but also eating insane amounts of food to gain weight at all costs, and genetics play the biggest role of all Ronnie Coleman training natural can probably get bigger than you or me using all the PEDs in the world.
 
 




 
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Re: How big can you get with just Anabolic Steroids 2018/11/19 12:05:38 (permalink)
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Genetic response to drugs food and training determines most of it.

This.
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Re: How big can you get with just Anabolic Steroids 2018/11/19 17:27:42 (permalink)
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you can go from a 5 to a 7



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Re: How big can you get with just Anabolic Steroids 2018/11/19 19:28:01 (permalink)
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As far as im aware synthetic insulin and growth hormone wasn't around until the mid 80's before that they had to extract it from dead animals which made it very expensive and not easily availbalbe which is why bodybuilders did not really use either until the late 80s to early 90s until they became easily availbale as far as size and strengh guys like bill kazmier is properly a good idea of what just anabolics will do of which is a lot bill kazmier was 6'3 330ibs muscle power house who could bench 300KG (660IBS)
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Re: How big can you get with just Anabolic Steroids 2018/11/20 04:41:04 (permalink)
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As far as im aware synthetic insulin and growth hormone wasn't around until the mid 80's before that they had to extract it from dead animals 




Dead humans in the case of GH.

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Re: How big can you get with just Anabolic Steroids 2018/11/20 17:20:22 (permalink)
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Genetic response to drugs food and training determines most of it.

This.




Very true.  You will get as bug as your genetics allow.  If you weren't born lucky no amount of any chemical will make you huge.  If drugs were totally removed from bodybuilding then the biggest guys would still be the biggest guys. 
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Re: How big can you get with just Anabolic Steroids 2018/11/20 18:44:22 (permalink)
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I think people grossly overestimate how much of a factor GH or even insulin is to the size of guys like Coleman or Ruhl. GH in particular is an extremely weak anabolic, Frank Zane was one of the first top bodybuilders to use GH and he was the smallest guy on stage, and even insulin is just not as good as anabolic steroids. Even today I bet most top pros just use the old tried and proven AAS to get massive and don't waste their money on those fancier PEDs which ultimately give them far less bang for buck, remember these aren't footballers getting paid millions a year.
 
Everybody is always looking for that one factor that explains everything and why those guys get so big when reality is more complex than that. Ultimately they got that big because they did everything they could to get that big, which doesn't just mean potentially using more drugs and at higher doses but also eating insane amounts of food to gain weight at all costs, and genetics play the biggest role of all Ronnie Coleman training natural can probably get bigger than you or me using all the PEDs in the world.
 
So this is really a moot question because what they used or didn't use tells you absolutely nothing at all about how big YOU can get.


This.
And it's doses and duration of AAS too.
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