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2007/06/13 15:47:44 (permalink)
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How long to lose gyno??

how long on average do you think taking nolva for it to effectively work and lose the gyno?

last time it still hadn't gone after 2.5 months and the easiest way to was go back onto stuff.

Im now finished that cycle and immediately gyno rears its ugly head.

I was on dbol and then the last couple of weeks i added oxodrol, as soon as i ran out oxodrol gyno started even though i was on my last couple days of dbol.


its only small lumps but sore/worrying enough


is this something that can take a very long time? I expected it to be not
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    RE: How long to lose gyno?? 2007/06/13 16:41:03 (permalink)
    just take 60mg per day until it goes, if after 1-2 months on that dose its still there, its permanant i'm afraid!
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    RE: How long to lose gyno?? 2007/06/13 17:15:22 (permalink)
    Hi Fx, Last cycle i got gyno mid way through - did 60mg of nolva untill it started going then 40 then ran 20mg throught to after pct but the lump took about two months to go. This cycle the gyno is back again but I'm on 20mg nolva and 50mg proviron and tbh i recon i can soon stop the nolva. Proviron looks to work great for me.

    Hope this helps dude
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    RE: How long to lose gyno?? 2007/06/13 18:29:55 (permalink)

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    just take 60mg per day until it goes, if after 1-2 months on that dose its still there, its permanant i'm afraid!


    well i just done 80 for 3 days and will drop to 60 for 2 weeks then 40

    if its still there after 2/3months then i go back on cycle as that will clear it up.

    I obviously am a little slow in raising my own test, if i do another cycle near end year then we def have to be the last for well over 6months to get myself back to normal.

    i may try clomid next time and take the risks on the extra sides as it maybe be better on the gyno, last time i got gyno after pct this time before i had a chance to fully start it, damn weekend away
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    RE: How long to lose gyno?? 2007/06/13 19:46:26 (permalink)
    if its still there after 2/3months then i go back on cycle as that will clear it up


    really i thought that'd make it worse going back on, are you sure you have gyno I've never heard of going on a cycle to clear gyno.....maybe some of the more experienced here can elaborate?
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    RE: How long to lose gyno?? 2007/06/13 20:00:26 (permalink)
    well i see no reason why it wouldnt help, nolva is a female hormone drug which u take to force ur natural test to come back as when come off cycle test is not being produced and thus more female hormone is produced thus developing bitch tits.

    going back on cycle will supplement the missing test and thus stop the increasing female hormone.

    obviously it is not the best thing to do and is not a long term solution but its what helped me last time and nolva didnt really help me last time
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    RE: How long to lose gyno?? 2007/06/13 20:02:13 (permalink)

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    well i see no reason why it wouldnt help, nolva is a female hormone drug which u take to force ur natural test to come back as when come off cycle test is not being produced and thus more female hormone is produced thus developing bitch tits.

    going back on cycle will supplement the missing test and thus stop the increasing female hormone.

    obviously it is not the best thing to do and is not a long term solution but its what helped me last time and nolva didnt really help me last time


    That doesn't sound logical at all mate.
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    RE: How long to lose gyno?? 2007/06/13 20:05:45 (permalink)
    nolva doesnt increase test as far as i was aware it just blocks oestrogen
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    RE: How long to lose gyno?? 2007/06/13 20:12:28 (permalink)
    yes it blocks estrogen, its all about ratio

    when you come off a cycle u have no test being produced so your body increases the estrogen which can cause gyno etc.

    so you take nolva to lower the estrogen and this prompts the body to create more testosterone and kick back into action.

    if you dont take estrogen blocker u basically start to turn into a girl.


    so another way of blocking estrogen is to go back on a cycle, its not your normal natural body test but a supplement which will in turn stop u producing estrogen

    me n the nurse gf have done a lot of research on this before i started.

    I must state now, this is not the way to do it, just a solution we thought of as the nolva didnt seem to be helping much, i am hoping it will this time
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    RE: How long to lose gyno?? 2007/06/13 20:14:54 (permalink)
    yes it blocks estrogen, its all about ratio

    when you come off a cycle u have no test being produced so your body increases the estrogen which can cause gyno etc.

    so you take nolva to lower the estrogen and this prompts the body to create more testosterone and kick back into action.

    if you dont take estrogen blocker u basically start to turn into a girl


    AGREED

    but why then can u develop gyno whilst on a cycle, as many do! not a good idea imo to go on a test cycle to clear gyno just my 2p
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    RE: How long to lose gyno?? 2007/06/13 20:20:00 (permalink)
    my gyno started when i stopped the oxodrol which i added to my dbol for 2 weeks, it seems the dbol was doing nothing (2 different batches, my 2cents its rubbish stuff) and thus when i stopped the oxodrol i crashed.

    obviously doing another cycle to clear is no solution as still when get to end of that cycle it will come back.

    i am hoping nolva will clear this time, fingers crossed

    i was just after some advise on how long it could take to clear as it was a bloody long time and no results before
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    RE: How long to lose gyno?? 2007/06/13 20:24:01 (permalink)
    ive developed gyno b4 on a cycle and nolva shifted it, however a few months ago i got gyno for no reason, I haven't done a cycle for ages due to an injury and the nolva reduced it a bit, but not enough, im now having surgerey in august
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    RE: How long to lose gyno?? 2007/06/13 20:26:12 (permalink)
    well thats what im trying to avoid, i do not want surgery and possibly have to explain etc
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    RE: How long to lose gyno?? 2007/06/13 20:27:35 (permalink)
    Sorry to go off-topic here, but how much is that op costing you, I still have gyno from previous cycles 5 years ago, they have gotten worse over the years but then I have gained alot of bodyfat so hopefully losing that will shift most of it, but if I were to get it removed, i'd li8ke to know how much it will cost, i'm from UK btw just living in Sweden atm.

    Cheers.
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    RE: How long to lose gyno?? 2007/06/13 20:40:45 (permalink)
    Sorry to go off-topic here, but how much is that op costing you[/quote

    nothing mate im having done on nhs
    just told em its embarring cant take shirt off and its effecting me mentally, she asked if i was taking aas, to which i replied 'do i look like it!' coz i dont to be fair, coz im in awful shape. only just started training again after 18mnths due to a dislocated knee.
    just visit your gp and go from there!
    i think its a lottory with the nhs as to whether they'll do it, in my case they were more than happy to do the op, so all is good
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    RE: How long to lose gyno?? 2007/06/13 20:42:41 (permalink)
    Ahhh lucky you, my doctor knows I take AAS so it might not be the same case as me but I can try next time i'm back in UK, but first i'll lose the fat and see if my gyno is still noticable, cheers for the advice and good luck with the op mate.
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    RE: How long to lose gyno?? 2007/06/13 20:46:10 (permalink)
    cheers mate, my gyno is pretty bad to be fair it noticable big time and im about 18% body fat, god only knows how bad it would look if i g0t back to around 12-14%
    probably need to borrow the missus's bra's lol
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    RE: How long to lose gyno?? 2007/06/13 20:49:53 (permalink)
    well luckily mines just a little lump n a bit tender far from noticable

    hope it dont get bigger is the point

    anyway, good luck and dont catch any mrsa while in nhs ;)



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    RE: How long to lose gyno?? 2007/06/13 20:51:59 (permalink)
    anyway, good luck and dont catch any mrsa while in nhs ;)


    lol
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    RE: How long to lose gyno?? 2007/06/13 23:03:28 (permalink)
    i have signs of gyno to sore nipples and a little lump... i have 2 weeks left of my course but 5 weeks till i should be starting pct.. if i start takin nolva now, will it stop me from gaining any more?

    thanks
    post edited by max1 - 2007/06/13 23:04:18
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