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2015/03/02 19:49:18 (permalink)
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How much calories undermaintenance using PH?

My question is:
How much calories under maintenance can you eat while using PH promoting the max fat drop keeping all the muscle mass
-600 cals under maintenance maybe?
Thanks in advance
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Re: How much calories undermaintenance using PH? 2015/03/03 09:23:44 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby Hispano 2015/03/03 14:05:50
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anabolics help you really tank the cals, depends on what cals you are cutting, say pro and fat are maintained, carbs can be lowered dramatically 
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Re: How much calories undermaintenance using PH? 2015/03/03 14:15:48 (permalink)
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So for example if your maintenance diet was:

3000 cals

Of which 40/40/20 p/f/c

At 250g protein (250g x 4cal = 1000 cals)

Etc..

You could keep the protein at 250g, but drop the fats and carbs to bring you to a total of 2000 cals.

You do the maths.

Is 2000 cals too low based on your need of 250g protein and usual dependency on 3000 cals??

Probably 2200 cals is easier etc.

PH will prevent all muscle loss (i think) so technically you could go to 100 cals and really cut - think you might die though.

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Re: How much calories undermaintenance using PH? 2015/03/03 21:50:12 (permalink)
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^^^ PH will NOT prevent ALL muscle loss - sorry pal but where do you come up with something like that??

PHs promote an anabolic environment no doubt, but will not stave off catabolism entirely in the absence of proper nutrition and sufficient macros for the individual's needs.

To the OP, the advice from Simon re lowering carbs above would be the route I'd consider too, I'd maintain protein at 2g/kg of lean body mass for satiety and muscle retention, maintain fat intake (which will also help with post cycle recovery) and lower carbs accordingly to hit my daily calorie target.
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Re: How much calories undermaintenance using PH? 2015/03/03 21:58:13 (permalink)
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^yup
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Re: How much calories undermaintenance using PH? 2015/03/03 22:22:00 (permalink)
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...i was just stating the blindingly ridiculous before someone else did. That way we all learn faster, and we did.

Great work Celt

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Re: How much calories undermaintenance using PH? 2015/03/04 11:29:41 (permalink)
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 Like the attitude mate
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