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2009/07/20 16:29:14 (permalink)

How much further do you think Humans can push their physical limits?

From looking at Mobsters thread about his new blog site, I saw that Benedikt Magnusson's wife hinted at him completing a 500kg Deadlift some point in the future.
 
This would be a massive improvement on the current record, which is roughly 455kg (?). Obviously this isn't guarenteed to happen but it still got me thinking.
 
How much farther are we going to push our limits?
 
Our knowledge of nutrition, routine, supplements and AAS etc is getting better and better, but at what point are we going to reach of physical limits regardless of what we do to our bodies.
 
Are we going to see Bodybuilders get even bigger?
 
Will we see Sprinters running the 100m in sub 9 Seconds?
 
Will we see a Deadlifts above and beyond of 500kg? Dare I say, will we see a 1000kg lift? (highly doubtful).


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    Wheels
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    Re:How much further do you think Humans can push their physical limits? 2009/07/20 16:36:27 (permalink)
    Every barrier that has been advertised as 'unbreakable' in most sport has been broken sooner or later.
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    Re:How much further do you think Humans can push their physical limits? 2009/07/20 16:39:21 (permalink)
    Every barrier that has been advertised as 'unbreakable' in most sport has been broken sooner or later.


    Naturally of course







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    Re:How much further do you think Humans can push their physical limits? 2009/07/20 16:49:00 (permalink)
    Wheels

    Every barrier that has been advertised as 'unbreakable' in most sport has been broken sooner or later.

    But by that logic will only keep improving and never peak.
     
    Surely there's only so many new supplements that we can discover, and only so much we can learn about the human body and how to train it.
     
    dementia

    Naturally of course


    I personally don't believe that any of the physical achievements I mentioned above have been completed naturally, including Track Sprinting. I also don't care that they aren't (before a debate starts).


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    Re:How much further do you think Humans can push their physical limits? 2009/07/20 16:53:08 (permalink)
    dementia

    Every barrier that has been advertised as 'unbreakable' in most sport has been broken sooner or later.


    Naturally of course


    At one time drugs where widely used to enhance performance, now there are 'no drugs in sport'.  Yet records still tumble.  Modern nutrition is an amazing thing.......
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    Re:How much further do you think Humans can push their physical limits? 2009/07/20 16:54:01 (permalink)
    Assuming we discover a way to develop tendons, joints etc. without massively enlarging the heart..........should be plenty left in the tank.

    Theoretically the muscles can grow and grow, e.g. turn off myostatin gene.
    Its the support structure thats the issue.

    As far as natural competitors go - no idea.
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    Re:How much further do you think Humans can push their physical limits? 2009/07/20 16:55:07 (permalink)
    Ranulph Fiennes .that is all

    Everyone has been in shape,but not everyone is IN shape,its about where your going not where you have been.
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    Re:How much further do you think Humans can push their physical limits? 2009/07/20 16:59:41 (permalink)
    Brucieflea

    Ranulph Fiennes .that is all


    But that's just one aspect of Physical Achievement. In terms of what he did, he may of pushed it as far as it can go. But he wasn't deadlifting 500kg and running the 100m in 9 flat...?


    "Why Climb a Mountain, when you can become one..."

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    Re:How much further do you think Humans can push their physical limits? 2009/07/20 17:04:44 (permalink)
    There's only so much the human body can do. 1000kg deadlift, no chance.

    Drugs only enhance what's already there - the human body. We'd need a new body via eugenics or messing with DNA before development.
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    Re:How much further do you think Humans can push their physical limits? 2009/07/20 17:05:19 (permalink)
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    Brucieflea

    Ranulph Fiennes .that is all


    But that's just one aspect of Physical Achievement. In terms of what he did, he may of pushed it as far as it can go. But he wasn't deadlifting 500kg and running the 100m in 9 flat...?


    Of course, he just put one foot in front of the other.  A lot.
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    Re:How much further do you think Humans can push their physical limits? 2009/07/20 17:23:08 (permalink)
    Dan Nukem

    Assuming we discover a way to develop tendons, joints etc. without massively enlarging the heart..........should be plenty left in the tank.

    Theoretically the muscles can grow and grow, e.g. turn off myostatin gene.
    Its the support structure thats the issue.

    As far as natural competitors go - no idea.

    Can you get that from your source? Next time I stock up ill look into it haha
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    Re:How much further do you think Humans can push their physical limits? 2009/07/20 17:24:37 (permalink)
    But isn't the human race constantly evolving ?  
       
        Maybe it is actually our physicaly abilities (and therefore limits)  that are increasing , rather than simply our ability to push them ? 

    Lazy is a word used by the obsessed, to describe those with a life.
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    Re:How much further do you think Humans can push their physical limits? 2009/07/20 17:27:43 (permalink)
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    Dan Nukem

    Assuming we discover a way to develop tendons, joints etc. without massively enlarging the heart..........should be plenty left in the tank.

    Theoretically the muscles can grow and grow, e.g. turn off myostatin gene.
    Its the support structure thats the issue.

    As far as natural competitors go - no idea.

    Can you get that from your source? Next time I stock up ill look into it haha


    From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myostatin

    As of 2009, no myostatin-inhibiting drugs for humans are on the market, but an antibody genetically engineered to neutralize myostatin was developed by New Jersey pharmaceutical company Wyeth.[20] The inhibitor is called MYO-029, but after an initial clinical trial, Wyeth says they won't be developing the drug
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    Re:How much further do you think Humans can push their physical limits? 2009/07/20 18:02:07 (permalink)
    Dr Z

    But isn't the human race constantly evolving ?  
      
       Maybe it is actually our physicaly abilities (and therefore limits)  that are increasing , rather than simply our ability to push them ? 


    Human evolution is much, much slower than that.  Things like diet are more significant.  People forget, but it is still within living memory that most of the world was malnurished to some degree.
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    Re:How much further do you think Humans can push their physical limits? 2009/07/20 18:11:47 (permalink)
    interesting article on 100m's and height.

    I think the rate humans are growing at with good nutritions etc in a couple of 100 years running times will be improved vastly.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/jul/17/bigger-faster-superhuman-athletes


    Thats not even getting into genetically modifying someone to be a perfect lifter/sprinters/swimmer.
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    Re:How much further do you think Humans can push their physical limits? 2009/07/20 18:33:02 (permalink)
    Are hydraulic prosthetics considered cheating?

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    Re:How much further do you think Humans can push their physical limits? 2009/07/20 19:26:40 (permalink)
    Dr Z

    But isn't the human race constantly evolving ?  
      
       Maybe it is actually our physicaly abilities (and therefore limits)  that are increasing , rather than simply our ability to push them ? 


    It could be argued that the human race is actually Devolving rather than Evolving.
     

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    Re:How much further do you think Humans can push their physical limits? 2009/07/20 20:31:36 (permalink)
    I would quite like to see a 'not-natural' Olympics. Allow our athletes to push their selves anyway they see fit.

    The thing that worries me is that the 'elite' are evolving but the average Joe is devolving, becoming obese (and being happy with it), being unactive etc.
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    Re:How much further do you think Humans can push their physical limits? 2009/07/20 20:42:51 (permalink)
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    I would quite like to see a 'not-natural' Olympics. Allow our athletes to push their selves anyway they see fit.

    The thing that worries me is that the 'elite' are evolving but the average Joe is devolving, becoming obese (and being happy with it), being unactive etc.


    a) You have seen a 'not-natural' olympics. Infact more than one.
     
    b) Apart from no evidence for the 2nd sentence, you kiss undertadnd the term evolution and devolution. If being ugly, fat and slow means indiduals are more sussessful in passing on their DNA then we will evolve to be that. It will not be devolution! That term could only possibly be used if we evolved into animals closer to chimpanzees than we currently were. Even then it probably would'nt be an accurate term.

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    Re:How much further do you think Humans can push their physical limits? 2009/07/20 20:55:57 (permalink)
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    Brucieflea

    Ranulph Fiennes .that is all


    But that's just one aspect of Physical Achievement. In terms of what he did, he may of pushed it as far as it can go. But he wasn't deadlifting 500kg and running the 100m in 9 flat...?


    Of course, he just put one foot in front of the other.  A lot.


    I never said that did I...? I was saying he wasn't the peak physical achievement of every aspect of our abilities i.e. endurance (yes), determination (yes), speed (no), strength (no)....

    Paracelsus

    There's only so much the human body can do. 1000kg deadlift, no chance.

    Drugs only enhance what's already there - the human body. We'd need a new body via eugenics or messing with DNA before development.


    That's what I'm kind of getting at. Our bodies are only going to go so far before it's impossible to improve anymore.

    When you start talking about altering DNA to create peak physical specimens, I think that's something that won't ever happen. We might do certain things with it, but I doubt creating power lifters and sprinters will be high on the list.


    "Why Climb a Mountain, when you can become one..."

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