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2015/01/30 12:34:48 (permalink)
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How much sleep do you guys get?

And how vital is it when on cycle?
I know one of the golden rules for gains is plenty of sleep and rest
But since coming off anti depressants and zopiclone (sleeping pills) I currently have 4-5 hours per night and that's broken 2 or 3 times every night too.
I have a baby due in march and got plenty more broken sleep to look forward too.
I always gain well whether or not I'm on a cycle or not but I just wanted to gauge your opinions on how important sleep is for gains......
Thanks fellas
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    chris182
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    Re: 2015/01/30 12:55:42 (permalink)
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    On Tren I get zero sleep not one second, racing thoughts.

    On Tren I need zopiclone or I'll go crazy.

    On test only, I can sleep pretty.

    Sleep is very important for recovery and gaining.
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    Re: 2015/01/30 13:08:50 (permalink)
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    Sorry when I say I sleep pretty good I'm talking six hours at most, takes me hours to drift off despite being shattered.

    Maybe sleep from 3am till 8am some nights, even though I can go to bed and try sleep from 11pm
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    Re: 2015/01/30 13:31:03 (permalink)
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    It is essential. Not just for recovery but for the production of essential hormones.
    How long have you been off the Anti-D and zopiclone?
     
    Sleep requirements do differ between individuals, I have always had problems establishing good sleep patterns.
    My gains and recovery suffer a lot when I cant get 7 hours of sleep a night.
    Currently suffering badly, it isnt due to any AAS as I am only on Test ATM.
    I have found that peptides help a bit, due to the increase in HGH at night time, they improve quality of sleep rather than giving longer sleep. GABA can be useful but not something to use long term  
    I am trying to get my G.P. to prescribe me some effective sleep aids but he is reluctant, saying they are addictive
    which is funny considering my history of substance abuse.
    I find zopiclone to be ineffective, I can munch them like smarties.
    Currently I get about 2 hrs sleep at a time waking several times a night, no matter how physically exhausted I get. 

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    Re: 2015/01/30 13:58:06 (permalink)
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    Just as I thought my sleeps preventing me reaching full potential
    For me I was having to take 3-4 zopiclone per night to even get asleep they done bugger all I think the mirtazipine was the reason I slept well but I've been off all meds for 2 months now I'm just having trouble staying asleep
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    Re: 2015/01/30 13:58:17 (permalink)
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    Not enough.... 6-6.5 week nights at best and then I try and grab a 25-40min nap before work if I can. Weekends I indulge in 8-9hrs

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    Re: How much sleep do you guys get? 2015/01/30 14:18:36 (permalink)
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    Good point on the naps, I have been listening to a sleep expert and he advises taking a 20 min nap in afternoon if possible.
    Longer than 20 mins will a detrimental effect.
     
    2 months well cleared by now then
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    Re: How much sleep do you guys get? 2015/01/30 14:27:25 (permalink)
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    I don't do naps. I can't seem to fall asleep during the day. Even if I try and get my ass in bed, I'll be awake for an hour, sleep for 30 minutes and wake right back up.
     
    I try to get my sleep at night but it's not easy. I need 8.5-9h to be fully refreshed, most days I get like 7.5, very often less. I try to catch up on weekends but then I can't sleep more than the 9h or so, I just wake up, eyes wide open and just want to get out of bed.
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    Re: How much sleep do you guys get? 2015/01/30 15:36:33 (permalink)
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    I don't do naps. I can't seem to fall asleep during the day. Even if I try and get my ass in bed, I'll be awake for an hour, sleep for 30 minutes and wake right back up.
     
    I try to get my sleep at night but it's not easy. I need 8.5-9h to be fully refreshed, most days I get like 7.5, very often less. I try to catch up on weekends but then I can't sleep more than the 9h or so, I just wake up, eyes wide open and just want to get out of bed.
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    Re: How much sleep do you guys get? 2015/01/30 15:38:32 (permalink)
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    I work nights so I'm nocturnal and sleep in two shifts, about 5.5 hours in the morning and another two after tea before work. At weekends I'm all over the place, my sleep pattern is all to c0ck. I always end up waking up in the middle of the night for a couple of hours.
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    Re: 2015/01/30 16:23:24 (permalink)
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    I can't take naps either, 3 to 4 zopiclone in one night? 7.5mg each? Sure it wasn't psychological? One Knocks me out when I'm on Tren, and without one I won't get a seconds sleep

    I went to stay at a hotel last Saturday and forgot my zopiclone and was awake all night it was horrible I just wanted to die
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    Re: 2015/01/30 16:29:12 (permalink)
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    Around 6 hours per night is the norm for me.
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    Re: 2015/01/30 16:36:07 (permalink)
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    I can't take naps either, 3 to 4 zopiclone in one night? 7.5mg each? Sure it wasn't psychological? One Knocks me out when I'm on Tren, and without one I won't get a seconds sleep

    I went to stay at a hotel last Saturday and forgot my zopiclone and was awake all night it was horrible I just wanted to die

     I can munch a whole strip of them mate, I have a very high tolerance to sedatives, but a very low tolerance to stimulants thanks to ADHD 

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    Re: 2015/01/30 16:58:18 (permalink)
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    I react badly to some medication, doctor gave me something once and I had to stop it felt like I was on speed.

    I had a read up about how zopiclone works, I have a friend that's heavily addicted she sleep constantly take zopiclone night and day
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    Re: 2015/01/30 17:37:58 (permalink)
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    On most gear I sleep ok 6-8 hours...on Tren then not a lot..so napping for the win lol

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    Re: 2015/01/30 18:09:52 (permalink)
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    6 hours quality sleep is good enough for recovery, 4 hours or less f*cks sh*t up, if I can get 6 hours quality sleep I'm good, anything else is a bonus, 6-7 hours of broken sleep, which may only total 4 hours of actual sleeping is not cool.

    Amazes me how some people get 8+ every night of quality sleep, sure I may allow myself 8 hours in bed but at least 2 hours of that will be wide awake.
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    Re: new split conundrum 2015/01/30 18:10:45 (permalink)
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    Each to their own and all that jazz really.
    Personally I train chest+tri's, back+bi's, shoulders/lats. Legs usually on two separate days. That is subject to inserting an occasional 'arms only' day and cardio as well, so it rotates on maybe a 9-day schedule. Always train 5 days a week whatever the routine is though.
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    Re: new split conundrum 2015/01/30 18:18:31 (permalink)
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    Floydy
    Each to their own and all that jazz really.
    Personally I train chest+tri's, back+bi's, shoulders/lats. Legs usually on two separate days. That is subject to inserting an occasional 'arms only' day and cardio as well, so it rotates on maybe a 9-day schedule. Always train 5 days a week whatever the routine is though.


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    Re: new split conundrum 2015/01/30 18:21:23 (permalink)
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    6 hours is a good night for me, very rarely get more.

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    Re: Re: new split conundrum 2015/01/30 18:39:38 (permalink)
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    Floydy
    Each to their own and all that jazz really.
    Personally I train chest+tri's, back+bi's, shoulders/lats. Legs usually on two separate days. That is subject to inserting an occasional 'arms only' day and cardio as well, so it rotates on maybe a 9-day schedule. Always train 5 days a week whatever the routine is though.


    They let you out of the home unsupervised to work out? That's not very responsible at all.



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