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2015/02/27 21:09:37 (permalink)
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How to keep dbol gians

I will be doing a dbol course for 4 weeks
1st week 20 mg
2/3 week 30
4th 20
I will have novladex incase of gyno and I will use them for a pct. how do I keep most of the gains once off the cycle and how many calories a day do I need to eat
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Re: How to keep dbol gians 2015/02/27 21:48:55 (permalink)
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Difficult. Most of dbol gains are water. I would not recommend a dbol only cycle to anyone.
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Re: How to keep dbol gians 2015/02/27 23:23:47 (permalink)
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Would creatine ethyl ester help keep gains
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Re: How to keep dbol gians 2015/02/27 23:23:47 (permalink)
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Would creatine ethyl ester help keep gains
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Re: How to keep dbol gians 2015/02/27 23:41:28 (permalink)
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You can keep muscle tissue, if you do everything right. You can't keep water, and why would you want to anyway?
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Re: How to keep dbol gians 2015/02/27 23:41:28 (permalink)
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You can keep muscle tissue, if you do everything right. You can't keep water, and why would you want to anyway?
 
Yes creatine will help keep some of the dbol "gains", if by gains you mean intramuscular water/glycogen storage. But whatever portion creatine lets you keep, will still be lost when you come off the creatine. Because it's not really muscle!
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Re: How to keep dbol gians 2015/02/28 06:17:31 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby thoon 2015/02/28 06:21:36
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For a start i would extend it to 6 weeks as you will just be starting to see good results around weeks 3/4. Also ignore the haters, dianabol is a very potent muscle builder. I have seen some cracking physiques built by dianabol.







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Re: How to keep dbol gians 2015/02/28 06:35:30 (permalink)
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So I will still be bigger when I come off the cycle because I know you lose a bit at first. And would you recommend taking creatine ethyl ester with it
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Re: How to keep dbol gians 2015/02/28 11:17:16 (permalink)
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As above comments, the majority of the weight gain on Dbol will be water and glycogen held in the muscle tissue. 
When you cycle off this will be lost, you can still retain most of the actual muscle tissue gain but bear in mind that this will be something like 30% (or less) of the total weight that you have gained. 
Dbol is a good mass builder if you take the water factor into consideration. Its easy to get disheartened by the apparent loss of weight post cycle but this is only water and cannot be avoided.
Dbol is also useful for gaining strength quickly as it is the added water that increases strength.
Creatine will help you to hold a bit more water in muscle tissue but again this will go when you stop the creatine. 
 
As to your first question the only way to give yourself the best chance of keeping as much of the the muscle tissue as possible is to do a decent PCT and keep calories high during PCT. This may mean that you gain some extra fat during PCT, but if you cut down on calories during PCT you will most certainly lose muscle tissue. 

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Re: How to keep dbol gians 2015/02/28 11:20:10 (permalink)
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How about mass will I still have good size
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Re: How to keep dbol gians 2015/02/28 11:20:10 (permalink)
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How about mass will I still have good size
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Re: How to keep dbol gians 2015/02/28 11:48:23 (permalink)
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You will have "size" but will not have much definition , thew gains from Dbol are "wet" and your muscle will tend to look smooth. Depends on your goals , strength or aesthetics ?  

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Re: How to keep dbol gians 2015/02/28 11:49:54 (permalink)
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I have a good shape now I just need to add size
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Re: How to keep dbol gians 2015/02/28 18:21:05 (permalink)
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http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/articles/article-dianabol-information.aspx
 
"Such mass gains must not be assumed to be solely muscular, and users should expect that post cycle weight losses will be significant."
post edited by PartyBoy - 2015/02/28 18:22:52

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Re: How to keep dbol gians 2015/02/28 19:12:11 (permalink)
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A:- Why are ya pyramiding?
B:- As dementia said 6 weeks
C:- Dbol = breakfast of champions
D:- You won't keep all the gains but control your diet, keep training hard (A lot of gains are lost psychologically..ie i'm not no gear so i'm weak blah, blah) n you'll hold a lot of 'em. 

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Re: How to keep dbol gians 2015/02/28 21:50:49 (permalink)
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I am not an expert but this question sucks. If you want to add size don't even think of taking a four week cycle of dbol. Eat more calories and train harder for a long time. If you want to utilise steroids in your long term battle to add muscle then do it properly! They are only a single tool in your toolbox. If you think taking a few dbol will give you mass you're fooling yourself. Use it to train harder and recover faster. Forget the size you carry while "on" its illusion. Add the dbol if you feel it will help but only to allow you to work harder and use calories more efficiently. When you come off work as hard as you can and any genuine gains will stay. As others have mentioned a short dbol course won't be a very effective way to achieve longer lasting gains as other options would.
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