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2017/08/02 21:50:17 (permalink)

How your meat if farmed in the UK.

If you have a spare 50 mins, please watch this video and them discuss its content.
 

 
 

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Re: How your meat if farmed in the UK. 2017/08/02 22:34:53 (permalink)
I'm fully aware of the way meat is farmed. This is one of the reasons I don't eat the stuff. I can only imagine the horrors that video contains so I won't be watching it.

However I do think it's important that people understand how the industrial food chain works so they can make an informed decision as to whether they are happy to support it financially or not.
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Re: How your meat if farmed in the UK. 2017/08/03 07:05:00 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby ANIMAL 2017/08/03 07:13:07
Not all meat is farmed like that, I grew up on a farm, and the animals I saw were more cared for than you can imagine, and all the farmers that i have ever known where the same. If you want to buy very cheap meat then it will be produced as cheaply as possible, there are always people with no morality who will fulfill that. But if you live rurally, then it in fact very easy to see where your meat comes from if you so choose, it is a matter of choice what the consumer supports, so no need to tar all farmers with the same brush. In truth, that video has no farmers on it.
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Re: How your meat if farmed in the UK. 2017/08/03 07:48:09 (permalink)
I won't be watching the video either, I can guess at it's content.
I eat meat less and less these days in order to support good meat.  I eat a lot of fish, which is becoming increasingly difficult to source non-farmed (especially salmon).
I'll either buy meat from a local market (Gower salt marsh lamb is bloody good), or if I buy from a supermarket then I'll go with game (venison or kangaroo) which is not farmed.  It's more expensive, but I treat meat as a treat.
 
I just wish there was a Lebanese takeaway on just eat which had free range, out door reared meat! 

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Re: How your meat if farmed in the UK. 2017/08/03 08:34:12 (permalink)
I shoot a lot of what I eat in fact in 3 weeks il hopefully shot a Red stag which will weigh about 15st should see me through my red meat requirements for a while and then duck season starts in Sept :) 
 
Farming is by design a brutal business and slaughtering is awful from being rounded up to actually having their throats slit and stunned. Disgusting archaic practises like Halal and Kosher are the worst. That being said some free range farms are very nice places to be up until the end but we have to face facts people just don't like spending money on anything let a lone food so they are happy to buy cheap **** in ignorance. 

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Re: How your meat if farmed in the UK. 2017/08/03 12:45:48 (permalink)
The title of my thread could be better I guess, its more about how farmed animals are treated from the time they are born to the moment they are killed.
 
Free range/organic/grass feed/local, all mean nothing when they all end up at the same slaughter houses. Do you not care how they are treated in their last minutes of being a live. And I feel its important to see these animals being killed so they can end up on your plate.
 
This is just a quick post, i will reply some more later.

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Re: How your meat if farmed in the UK. 2017/08/03 13:24:01 (permalink)
Boss Redd are you a vegan? 
 
"Free range/organic/grass feed/local, all mean nothing when they all end up at the same slaughter houses" this is not true at all. If animals are reared to high welfare standards then it means a lot in my experience. 
 
You are quite correct that its important for people to see how Animals are killed people are so detached from reality these days its untrue but ultimately if you wish to eat meat then it has to be killed. However bedwetting liberal culture will either not allow it or use it to end up with us eating Matrix style gruel. 
 

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Re: How your meat if farmed in the UK. 2017/08/03 19:22:09 (permalink)
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I'm fully aware of the way meat is farmed. This is one of the reasons I don't eat the stuff. I can only imagine the horrors that video contains so I won't be watching it.

However I do think it's important that people understand how the industrial food chain works so they can make an informed decision as to whether they are happy to support it financially or not.



Weather you eat meat or not I still think it needs to be watched. I've sent the link to all the veggie and vegans I know aswell

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Re: How your meat if farmed in the UK. 2017/08/03 19:28:52 (permalink)
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Not all meat is farmed like that, I grew up on a farm, and the animals I saw were more cared for than you can imagine, and all the farmers that i have ever known where the same. If you want to buy very cheap meat then it will be produced as cheaply as possible, there are always people with no morality who will fulfill that. But if you live rurally, then it in fact very easy to see where your meat comes from if you so choose, it is a matter of choice what the consumer supports, so no need to tar all farmers with the same brush. In truth, that video has no farmers on it.




Not all, but most is, Since becoming Vegan everyone I talk to seems to know exactly where and how the meat they buy is farmed, and its always local or free range where the animal has had some pampered life.
 
So who is buying these billions of animals that are treated and killed like they are complete ****

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Re: How your meat if farmed in the UK. 2017/08/03 19:31:23 (permalink)
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I shoot a lot of what I eat in fact in 3 weeks il hopefully shot a Red stag which will weigh about 15st should see me through my red meat requirements for a while and then duck season starts in Sept :) 
 
Farming is by design a brutal business and slaughtering is awful from being rounded up to actually having their throats slit and stunned. Disgusting archaic practises like Halal and Kosher are the worst. That being said some free range farms are very nice places to be up until the end but we have to face facts people just don't like spending money on anything let a lone food so they are happy to buy cheap **** in ignorance. 




Where do you live?

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Re: How your meat if farmed in the UK. 2017/08/03 19:38:28 (permalink)
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I shoot a lot of what I eat in fact in 3 weeks il hopefully shot a Red stag which will weigh about 15st should see me through my red meat requirements for a while and then duck season starts in Sept :) 
 
Farming is by design a brutal business and slaughtering is awful from being rounded up to actually having their throats slit and stunned. Disgusting archaic practises like Halal and Kosher are the worst. That being said some free range farms are very nice places to be up until the end but we have to face facts people just don't like spending money on anything let a lone food so they are happy to buy cheap **** in ignorance. 




Where do you live?


Blackpool.

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Re: How your meat if farmed in the UK. 2017/08/03 19:38:34 (permalink)
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Boss Redd are you a vegan? 
 
"Free range/organic/grass feed/local, all mean nothing when they all end up at the same slaughter houses" this is not true at all. If animals are reared to high welfare standards then it means a lot in my experience. 
 
You are quite correct that its important for people to see how Animals are killed people are so detached from reality these days its untrue but ultimately if you wish to eat meat then it has to be killed. However bedwetting liberal culture will either not allow it or use it to end up with us eating Matrix style gruel. 
 




I been Vegan for about 3 weeks, been thinking about it all for about 6 weeks. Before that I pretty much would eat any animal.
 
Is there some kind of 1st/business class slaughter house these animals go to where they get put to sleep without pain or fear, while receiving a belly rub and a hot cup of coco?
 
 

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Re: How your meat if farmed in the UK. 2017/08/03 20:11:54 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby ANIMAL 2017/08/03 20:20:58
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Boss Redd are you a vegan? 
 
"Free range/organic/grass feed/local, all mean nothing when they all end up at the same slaughter houses" this is not true at all. If animals are reared to high welfare standards then it means a lot in my experience. 
 
You are quite correct that its important for people to see how Animals are killed people are so detached from reality these days its untrue but ultimately if you wish to eat meat then it has to be killed. However bedwetting liberal culture will either not allow it or use it to end up with us eating Matrix style gruel. 
 




I been Vegan for about 3 weeks, been thinking about it all for about 6 weeks. Before that I pretty much would eat any animal.
 
Is there some kind of 1st/business class slaughter house these animals go to where they get put to sleep without pain or fear, while receiving a belly rub and a hot cup of coco?
 
 


Ok I will engage you even though you are already demonstrating the annoying vegan trait of self righteousness.

In answer to your question. Many of the free range high quality animals are slaughtered on site and butchered directly for the farm shops. Infinitely better than being bussed to an abbotoir. Any deer you see in UK butchers has been shot in the head in a field as it was quietly munching its breakfast no execeptions even farmed stuff.

Make no mistake eating meat requires death and death is ****ing brutal end of discussion hiding behind semantics or living in some self righteous i only buy organic bubble is simply kidding oneself to the reality of life.

Sadly for many people they simply can't afford animals raised in high welfare basis and to eat a good diet. These people almost certainly couldn't afford a vegan diet either.

But even if you remove the cost aspect we have become so detached from our food that we don't recognise it. A prime example is the chicken debacle. Chickens are not meant to all weight exactly 2.2kg and have the identical dimensions yet when people see something different they just won't buy it. If you look at pheasants you can buy them for £2 a bird in game season. Almost identical to chicken wholly organic they even look like one when plucked but people simply won't buy them ironically for one of the reasons that as they were shot people think it's cruel. The mind boggles it really does.

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Re: How your meat if farmed in the UK. 2017/08/03 20:27:24 (permalink)
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But even if you remove the cost aspect we have become so detached from our food that we don't recognise it. A prime example is the chicken debacle. Chickens are not meant to all weight exactly 2.2kg and have the identical dimensions yet when people see something different they just won't buy it.


People are f*£king morons.

This is even true for vegetables. Supermarkets cannot sell a bent cucumber or a 2 headed radish. What we need is an end of days scenario to weed out the useless who couldnt possibly survive without cellophane wrapped goujons of frozen chicken from Iceland.

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Re: How your meat if farmed in the UK. 2017/08/03 20:30:33 (permalink)☼ Best Answerby James 2017/09/13 17:18:57
Boss. I've been vegan for quite some time. I've seen people become vegan and because they no longer eat meat they start to think they can talk down to and judge people who do. Please don't be one of those guys. It gives us all a bad name. If you want to change the world then I think it's better to do so by example whilst respecting the fact that not everyone agrees with you. Be a lighthouse not a tugboat.
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Re: How your meat if farmed in the UK. 2017/08/03 20:49:26 (permalink)
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But even if you remove the cost aspect we have become so detached from our food that we don't recognise it. A prime example is the chicken debacle. Chickens are not meant to all weight exactly 2.2kg and have the identical dimensions yet when people see something different they just won't buy it.


People are f*£king morons.

This is even true for vegetables. Supermarkets cannot sell a bent cucumber or a 2 headed radish. What we need is an end of days scenario to weed out the useless who couldnt possibly survive without cellophane wrapped goujons of frozen chicken from Iceland.


I hear you man. Nothing annoys me more than people in this country claiming poverty and lack of food then reusing a good meal. Something children from 1915/1940 would never have done.

It's a shame but it is indicative of the bed wetting society we live in that expects everything to be just handed to it.

Wood pigeon is a great food source where you get a great meal and help save vegans by protecting their crops 😂 Iv cooked it for a lot of people and they all very politely tried it but once they had it said they would definitely eat it again. I shoot hundreds per year and as yet not one of them has took me up on the offer of one even when I offered to dress it for them.

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Re: How your meat if farmed in the UK. 2017/08/03 21:14:55 (permalink)
I didn't eat meat for a long time (11 years) part of when I was competing as a bodybuilder. I did it for both ethical and health reasons. I don't judge am too long in the tooth for it all so people do as they please.

I'm taking up archery once again and will if I can hunt live prey (you are able to do this on private land with owners permission. So certainly have no problem dispatching my food if done humanely to an animal who has lived a natural life.

I do agree though that people have become detached from their food and if society ever broke down (I think it will sooner or later) most people would struggle as they are too soft now. Also see no problem hunting with appropriate dogs (this doesn't include fox hunting as the dogs used are useless and inefficent killers).
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Re: How your meat if farmed in the UK. 2017/08/03 22:31:03 (permalink)
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Boss Redd are you a vegan? 
 
"Free range/organic/grass feed/local, all mean nothing when they all end up at the same slaughter houses" this is not true at all. If animals are reared to high welfare standards then it means a lot in my experience. 
 
You are quite correct that its important for people to see how Animals are killed people are so detached from reality these days its untrue but ultimately if you wish to eat meat then it has to be killed. However bedwetting liberal culture will either not allow it or use it to end up with us eating Matrix style gruel. 
 




I been Vegan for about 3 weeks, been thinking about it all for about 6 weeks. Before that I pretty much would eat any animal.
 
Is there some kind of 1st/business class slaughter house these animals go to where they get put to sleep without pain or fear, while receiving a belly rub and a hot cup of coco?
 
 


In answer to your question. Many of the free range high quality animals are slaughtered on site and butchered directly for the farm shops. Infinitely better than being bussed to an abbotoir. Any deer you see in UK butchers has been shot in the head in a field as it was quietly munching its breakfast no execeptions even farmed stuff.
 
 
Sadly for many people they simply can't afford animals raised in high welfare basis and to eat a good diet. These people almost certainly couldn't afford a vegan diet either. 
 
 

 
They still experience fear/pain, And would rather not die just to be someones dinner. Who are we to play God with the life of other earthlings. What makes it ok? Also what percentage of animals raised for food will that be? 10%?
 
I am not sure where people get the idea that the Vegan diet is costly. Its more a time issue then a cost issue. Yea if you want a super healthy/balanced diet then it will cost a lot, but that is the same weather you are a Vegan or not.



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Re: How your meat if farmed in the UK. 2017/08/03 22:49:26 (permalink)
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Boss. I've been vegan for quite some time. I've seen people become vegan and because they no longer eat meat they start to think they can talk down to and judge people who do. Please don't be one of those guys. It gives us all a bad name. If you want to change the world then I think it's better to do so by example whilst respecting the fact that not everyone agrees with you. Be a lighthouse not a tugboat.



I am not talking down to anyone nor am I judging people, but if you eat meat I believe you should know what they are eating, where it comes from and how its treated. If you are still happy to eat meat after that then so be it.
 
I'm pretty sure that 100% of people with agree that Animal cruelty is wrong. And that there is no humane way to kill someone that does not want to die.
 
 

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Re: How your meat if farmed in the UK. 2017/08/03 22:53:00 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby ANIMAL 2017/08/03 23:13:12
I like getting full use out of the animal. I don't like waste. Use all the of animal. Everybody can eat organic food if they eat cheaper cuts, offal, mutton, legs etc. I alternate between top cuts and cheaper cuts.
 
The animals have a happy healthy life and the people eat proper tasty meat. When the times comes they are put to the sword and there is nothing wrong with that. Killed On site would be best. Nothing wrong with shooting animals in the wild as well, that's a natural thing to do just as other predators kill in the wild.    
 
I am fully against intensive mass produced meat. The meat is bad and the animals suffer. Go organic.
 
There is lack of respect of animals now. A chicken should cost some money. It's not some dirt cheap object. It needed to be reared, have space, fed, done slowly and properly.

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