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2003/11/25 11:24:00 (permalink)

I am a fighter sprint training

Hello All,

I am intending on incorporating sprint training into my ratiem my idea is to do this.

7 x 100 sprints sprint to the 100mtrs then do 20 press ups jog back to the start for rcovery

7 x 75 mtrs 20 sit ups

7 x 50 mtrs 15 squat thrusts

The reps excersise i will do at the end of each sprint before i do the recovery jog back to the start of the track what do you think ?

I have been told that this is excellent for fight fitness as it gives u the burst then calm just like in a fight.
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    RE: I am a fighter sprint training 2003/11/25 13:43:54 (permalink)
    Sounds like conventional HIIT with a kick!!
    Also sounds very hard!!
    How about walking back after each sprint, as that should allow for heart rate to drop a little!?
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    RE: I am a fighter sprint training 2003/11/25 14:45:10 (permalink)
    yeah ok i will do that iwas just doing 10 x 100 mtrs before and also doing full laps running the sides slow jogging the corners of the track. Hows this for fitness though will it help that extra I need?
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    RE: I am a fighter sprint training 2003/11/25 15:31:47 (permalink)
    Well it will certainly burn the extra fat off you.
    I am not sure about the answer on if it gives you more explosiveness or stamina though. Maybe someone else would like to comment?
    All I know is that it looks very difficult!! I might give it a go and do maybe a quarter of what you are doing!! lol
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    RE: I am a fighter sprint training 2003/11/25 15:54:25 (permalink)
    if you want my advice i would do that routine as it is, but up hill.
    hill sprints are excelent for both endurance, stamina and lung capacity. i do them over 10x200, 15x100 or 20x50. make the pressups plyometric ones [clap at mid point] and change the squat thrusts for full squatting jump [squat right down then spring up vertically as high as you can].

    jobs a good'en
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    RE: I am a fighter sprint training 2003/11/25 15:56:18 (permalink)
    my mate in the para's does em 20x2-500m with up to 40lb on his back.

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    RE: I am a fighter sprint training 2003/11/25 15:57:29 (permalink)
    ....up hill
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    RE: I am a fighter sprint training 2003/11/25 16:21:31 (permalink)
    Good lad robert you speakin my language I like it and I don't think am fit enough to do what ur suggest i will try the hill sprints when u say hill how steep
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    RE: I am a fighter sprint training 2003/11/25 16:36:00 (permalink)
    talkin' about 20 degrees for a real bstrd session, but even a slight incline is better than none.

    good luck mate
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    RE: I am a fighter sprint training 2003/11/25 16:41:58 (permalink)
    i'm not sure if this is typical of every bridge, but near my house there is a b road going over a motorway that gives me an incline of roughly 15 degrees and is 200ishm long. try to find something similar. if i'm feeling particularly rambo hard, i will carry a log/heavy bergen or some jerry cans full of sand/water up there too. start with one at the top and one at the bottom, carry one up then carry the other down,

    i.e.

    jerry can up, sprint
    log down, jog
    back pack up, sprint
    jerry can down, jog
    log up, sprint

    etc etc

    again, goodluck. they are hard, but so are you i'm guessing. ha ha.
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    RE: I am a fighter sprint training 2003/11/25 18:28:37 (permalink)
    I wouldn't sprint with a back pack on your back - sounds dangerous and could be nasty on the joints if you ask me, but would make excellent conditioning carrying it in your arms.

    Whamp - your plan looks good mate...should build a nice level of endurance.
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    RE: I am a fighter sprint training 2003/11/25 20:30:13 (permalink)
    Hello Whamp. Personally I don't like what you have listed either. I think you should keep bodyweight conditioning seperate from your sprints.

    The reason being that you want to apply maximum intensity to your running.

    I think that you should go back to performing ten 100m sprints. Your goals should be too continually improve your best times. you should be continually trying to become faster.

    You need to think in terms of quality rather than sheer quantity.

    Sprinting up a hill or sprinting wearing a backpack/weighted vest are great for variety.

    When you are sprinting you are training to become explosive too and adding weight too your body or running uphill will actually slow you down and should only be used for variety.

    Wearing a weighted backpack/vest shouldn't be a problem for your joints as long as you only wear it for the sprints and not for long distance runs.

    Have you got another fight lined up Whamp?

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    RE: I am a fighter sprint training 2003/11/25 23:08:03 (permalink)
    I agree with Robert, I train for footy and plyometrics has made a big difference for me. Some other plyometric exercises that might be worth trying are running up stairs, uphill bounding, bench jumps etc - just remember to 'explode' off the ground.

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    RE: I am a fighter sprint training 2003/11/26 01:24:12 (permalink)
    Hey boxer. Do you have an exemple of the weighted vest you are talking about? I may be interested to buy one. I did a search on the web but the vest I found cost 359$ lol.
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    RE: I am a fighter sprint training 2003/11/26 14:47:35 (permalink)
    Simon this is the weighted vest I own http://www.newitts.com/product.pasp?etp=buyat&txtCatalog=public&txtProductID=IT000346

    It is quite expensive but the cheaper ones don't normally fit as well and can be uncomfortable.
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    RE: I am a fighter sprint training 2003/11/26 16:09:19 (permalink)
    boxer:

    quote:
    When you are sprinting you are training to become explosive too and adding weight too your body or running uphill will actually slow you down and should only be used for variety.



    not being funny, i can appreciate where you are coming from, but, in my opinion, if you can lets say sprint 100m in 11sec, up hil that might translate to 14sec depending on incline, put a weight on your back and your looking at 20-30sec. i belive my method to be corect for two reasons:

    #1 if you are used to sprinting carrying additional load, when the load and incline are removed you will be a lot faster, and able to go for longer. adding a load to sprinting makes every step harder, like plyometrics you *have* to use more power to maintain what you are doing. sprinting with a load becomes a plyo exersize of sorts. and altough it may not improve his 100m time vastly, he is not really interested in running 100m fast, he is interested in developing short term endurance and power for functional use. that cannot progress as quickly useing the bodyweight alone.

    #2 fighter training cannot be limited to 100m sprints as that will only improve his time over 100m, imo, fighter trainng should be more geared to 20-40secs worth of serious effort at a time, not 10-11.

    just my opinion, and, seeing as i train this way if i am going wrong it would benifit me to know so, and why, so could we continue this discussion so as we can reach an agreement as anything that imporoves my training is more than welcome.

    cheers matey

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    RE: I am a fighter sprint training 2003/11/26 17:19:07 (permalink)
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    #1 if you are used to sprinting carrying additional load, when the load and incline are removed you will be a lot faster

    You wont actually mate it will just feel like you are.
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    he is not really interested in running 100m fast, he is interested in developing short term endurance and power for functional use.

    Yes he is interested in increasing his anaerobic threshold and admittedly the sprints uphill and the sprints with a backpack should be better for this and are great for variety.

    What sprints do is improve your explosiveness too. You are obviously a fighter too mate so imagine performing shadow sparring with heavy dumbell in your hands. What is more effective shadow sparring with the heavy dumbell or no weight? It is no weight and the same applies for the sprinting.

    Shadow sparring is carried out by boxers occasionally with light weights but it's more than a conditioning exercise than anything else.
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    #2 fighter training cannot be limited to 100m sprints as that will only improve his time over 100m, imo, fighter trainng should be more geared to 20-40secs worth of serious effort at a time, not 10-11.


    I actually agree with you that Whamp should sprint over shorter and longer distances than 100m.

    Whamp should be carrying out long distance runs and intervals too.
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    just my opinion, and, seeing as i train this way if i am going wrong it would benifit me to know so, and why, so could we continue this discussion so as we can reach an agreement as anything that imporoves my training is more than welcome.

    That's cool. I'm only here to learn too ;)
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    RE: I am a fighter sprint training 2003/11/26 17:52:31 (permalink)
    boxer is right uphill sprints with weight are not how to get faster - train fast to be fast. sprinters never run with more than 5% of their BW on, hence why the vests only support a small weight.
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    RE: I am a fighter sprint training 2003/11/26 18:03:40 (permalink)
    Im trying to remember what the NZ rugby team did for conditioning. I think it might have been 10x400m with a walk around the lap for rest. the aim is to get all 10 to around the same time. maybe worth thinking about
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    RE: I am a fighter sprint training 2003/11/26 22:49:57 (permalink)
    boxer:

    quote:
    You wont actually mate it will just feel like you are.



    i didn't actually know that, i was going on what i tought was observation, but seeing as i never timed myself before and after, i assumed. oops. [:I]

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    What sprints do is improve your explosiveness too. You are obviously a fighter too mate so imagine performing shadow sparring with heavy dumbell in your hands. What is more effective shadow sparring with the heavy dumbell or no weight? It is no weight and the same applies for the sprinting.



    all true.

    quote:
    I actually agree with you that Whamp should sprint over shorter and longer distances than 100m.

    Whamp should be carrying out long distance runs and intervals too.



    cool, we agree. [:p]

    thanks for the info mate, i'm pleased to have learnt something. hope i can return the favour one day.

    rob
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