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2015/03/03 18:17:36 (permalink)
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If we leave the EU should we give serious consideration to bringing back the death penalty

With CCTV DNA forensics innocent convictions are very unlikely,but also many unknown lives may be saved by the deterrent factor that the death penalty may have take Bundy and the Briely brothers they were all big tough guys but on execution day did not have the balls to walk to the chair and needed to be "escorted".With recent murder events and I'm not going to be specific but I'm sure you have an idea of the ones I'm on about is it time to bring back capital punishment?
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Re: If we leave the EU should we give serious consideration to bringing back the death pen 2015/03/03 18:24:33 (permalink)
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It didn't stop them committing the crime though

  




 
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Re: If we leave the EU should we give serious consideration to bringing back the death pen 2015/03/03 18:24:38 (permalink)
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I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's been generally accepted among criminologists and the like that capital punishment isn't actually an effective deterrent.

Realistically if you're the kind of person who is willing to kill another person then I don't think anything is going to deter you.

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Re: If we leave the EU should we give serious consideration to bringing back the death pen 2015/03/03 18:39:54 (permalink)
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It's difficult to say whether or not it acts as a deterrent, as by it's very definition, the people who are deterred don't commit the crime and we therefore never hear of them. I don't think anyone has ever walked into a police station and said 'you know, I was seriously considering kidnapping and killing a young girl, but the chance of swinging for it put me right off'. 
 
I doubt it does much to be honest as I don't think people who commit premeditated murder ever think they'll be caught. I do however think it's a perfectly acceptable means of getting scum out of our society and off the public tax burden. 

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Re: If we leave the EU should we give serious consideration to bringing back the death pen 2015/03/03 18:41:34 (permalink)
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Yea, cheaper than keeping them in jail for 40 odd years..
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Re: If we leave the EU should we give serious consideration to bringing back the death pen 2015/03/03 19:24:25 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby evertonfc 2015/03/05 17:23:20
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Never worked, and theirs been far to many jailed when they did nothing.
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Re: If we leave the EU should we give serious consideration to bringing back the death pen 2015/03/03 21:09:39 (permalink)
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Yes, worth considering.  
 
What's really needed is a more efficient process.  The process itself of being death row is very costly.
 
I don't care if it's an effective deterrent or not, some "people" don't deserve to live, and I don't want my hard earned cash spent on keeping some of these c**ts alive.
 
 
 
 
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Re: If we leave the EU should we give serious consideration to bringing back the death pen 2015/03/03 21:21:28 (permalink)
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Interesting debate. It won't happen; human rights has gone too far - but yes, it would be a reasonable consideration for some heinous crimes and disgusting criminal elements that have far too many luxuries that we pay for.

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Re: If we leave the EU should we give serious consideration to bringing back the death pen 2015/03/03 21:28:00 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby Suspirio 2015/05/16 01:45:45
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While this Country has a massive problem with authorities and Police forces turning a blind eye to organized child sex abuse and rape then the last thing we need is to give them the ability to be part of a chain that has the power to take life. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: If we leave the EU should we give serious consideration to bringing back the death pen 2015/03/03 22:15:43 (permalink)
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Only thing you have to ask is if you are willing to bring back the death sentence, then are you willing to kill all the men and women of all ages yourself, not have someone else do it for you.
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Re: If we leave the EU should we give serious consideration to bringing back the death pen 2015/03/03 22:18:06 (permalink)
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Agree with Trident, the "system" that would oversee it is rotten to the core.
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Re: If we leave the EU should we give serious consideration to bringing back the death pen 2015/03/03 22:21:51 (permalink)
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Yea, cheaper than keeping them in jail for 40 odd years..



I would off said an out right 'No'.
 
But you have a point it would be cheaper, but I think it only works if theres a large number of people to get the chop. If its only like 100 a year then I think theres no much point, but 10,000 then it starts to add up money wise.
 
And what crimes would have to be committed for it?
 
You come home to find your wife in bed with another man, and kill them both, do you get the chop?

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Re: If we leave the EU should we give serious consideration to bringing back the death pen 2015/03/04 04:10:43 (permalink)
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All American states that have the death penalty for murder have a higher murder rate.
/thread
 
edit: and what the fukc is this "if we leave the EU"?
 
edit2: and who's "we"?
post edited by daKensta - 2015/03/04 04:17:45

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Re: If we leave the EU should we give serious consideration to bringing back the death pen 2015/03/04 05:16:06 (permalink)
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All American states that have the death penalty for murder have a higher murder rate.
/thread
 
edit: and what the fukc is this "if we leave the EU"?
 
edit2: and who's "we"?




But that doesn't actually prove anything. It could be argued that these states were more violent, or had larger African American &/or Hispanic populations (where most murders stem from) regardless and therefore felt the need to introduce a death penalty. It would only prove any connection if the penalty were to be removed and the murder rate dropped accordingly. 

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Re: If we leave the EU should we give serious consideration to bringing back the death pen 2015/03/04 06:21:05 (permalink)
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I think we should bring back the moustache if we leave
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Re: If we leave the EU should we give serious consideration to bringing back the death pen 2015/03/04 07:33:57 (permalink)
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Yea, cheaper than keeping them in jail for 40 odd years..



I would off said an out right 'No'.
 
But you have a point it would be cheaper, but I think it only works if theres a large number of people to get the chop. If its only like 100 a year then I think theres no much point, but 10,000 then it starts to add up money wise.
 
And what crimes would have to be committed for it?
 
You come home to find your wife in bed with another man, and kill them both, do you get the chop?


No, you confess that you've been seeing her sister for the last six months and call it even lol
 
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Re: If we leave the EU should we give serious consideration to bringing back the death pen 2015/03/04 08:15:19 (permalink)
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I do however think it's a perfectly acceptable means of getting scum out of our society and off the public tax burden. 

This.
 
Some animals just can't be set free. If it can be established beyond reasonable doubt that that man can never be allowed to go free again, better to just kill him than pay for him to stay 40, 50, 60 years or more in prison.
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Re: If we leave the EU should we give serious consideration to bringing back the death pen 2015/03/04 08:24:44 (permalink)
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I think in black and white cases peopke should just be killed. Saves time money and hassle of incarcerating them for 40/50 years. Evidence needs to be 200% irrefutable though otherwise no deal.

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Re: If we leave the EU should we give serious consideration to bringing back the death pen 2015/03/04 08:32:00 (permalink)
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My biggest fear is around the processes we use.
Rasputins comment about 200% sure is why it becomes a very expensive process, the need to prove beyond reasonable doubt, and the appeal system exponentially increases costs.
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Re: If we leave the EU should we give serious consideration to bringing back the death pen 2015/03/04 08:42:36 (permalink)
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I do however think it's a perfectly acceptable means of getting scum out of our society and off the public tax burden. 

This.
 
Some animals just can't be set free. If it can be established beyond reasonable doubt that that man can never be allowed to go free again, better to just kill him than pay for him to stay 40, 50, 60 years or more in prison.

as Trident says the system is rotten to the core , that begs the question who decides which animals can't be set free and who gets the death penalty , a revolutionary or someone like Richard Dawkins might get the chair in some people's eyes and they might later change speeding and other laws to off people, I also read somewhere that the death penalty is a great money spinner for the government and private prisons in the US as it costs a lot more to execute someone that to keep them in prison due to extra security while on death row and legal costs , it's a good idea for the like of Saville etc but a slippery slope .
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