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Ivor_Ireland
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2007/06/19 15:11:40 (permalink)
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If you're a diabetic

Hi, just wondering if there are any diabetics on here. Im insulin dependent, type-1. I take a pretty run of the mill Body Fortress Whey protein. Just wondering if there are any more experienced trainers on here that know what's good and what's not for diabetics.

I've not been training for long and only get a chance to get in to the gym maybe 3 days a week, 4 if im lucky. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheers.

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    James
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    RE: If you're a diabetic 2007/06/20 14:44:48 (permalink)
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    Hi Ivor

    I know there are a few on here.

    Really all you need to do is follow a normal BBing diet avoiding sugars and maltodextrin and ensure you have structured meals. What insulin regimen are you on. Novorapid or humalog should mean you have a degree of control yourself
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    RE: If you're a diabetic 2007/06/20 15:54:05 (permalink)
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    Hi James, Thanks for that. Im on mixtard insuling, morning and evening injections. My breakfasts usually consist of toast and coffee or cereal and coffee with some orange juice.

    Lunch is usually a bread roll with some kind of salad filling. My dinners vary. I do try and avoid sugary foods and balance with a rapid acting insulin on the occasions when I have something sweet.

    I was just wondering if there were people who were more in the know on what supplements I could take. When I was at a diabetic clinic at the hospital they actually didn't have any answers in the area and were more looking to me as a guinea pig and asking if i'd give them feedback. The whey protein im using seems ok blood-sugar wise but I don't know if its really aiding my training as such.

    I don't particularly want to become heavily muscled, i would prefer to be lean muscled. My frame probably leans that way anyway. So Weight and Muscle gainers might not be best for me. But something that specifically aids lean muscle generation would be perfect.
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    RE: If you're a diabetic 2007/06/20 18:30:04 (permalink)
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    Hello Ivor and welcome to muscletalk, sorry i cant help you on the diabetic question but a few guys in my gym are diabetic and i will find out what they are taking and get back to you!
    Also whereabouts in Ireland are you ?
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    RE: If you're a diabetic 2007/06/20 19:09:21 (permalink)
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    Hi, thanks for the reply. Im down in Limerick. I train at the UL gym.
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    RE: If you're a diabetic 2007/06/20 21:51:48 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Ivor_Ireland

    Hi James, Thanks for that. Im on mixtard insuling, morning and evening injections. My breakfasts usually consist of toast and coffee or cereal and coffee with some orange juice.

    Lunch is usually a bread roll with some kind of salad filling. My dinners vary. I do try and avoid sugary foods and balance with a rapid acting insulin on the occasions when I have something sweet.

    I was just wondering if there were people who were more in the know on what supplements I could take. When I was at a diabetic clinic at the hospital they actually didn't have any answers in the area and were more looking to me as a guinea pig and asking if i'd give them feedback. The whey protein im using seems ok blood-sugar wise but I don't know if its really aiding my training as such.

    I don't particularly want to become heavily muscled, i would prefer to be lean muscled. My frame probably leans that way anyway. So Weight and Muscle gainers might not be best for me. But something that specifically aids lean muscle generation would be perfect.

    What ratio of mixitard are you on and what dose? So you're not on novorapid or humalog? Any reason for this?

    Do you have a DAFNE program in your area? see http://www.dafne.uk.com/ - this stratergy is revolutionary for diabetics and I can't praise the idea enough. If you were on this it would mean you could manipulate your own diet however you like and it would undoubtably help gains
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    RE: If you're a diabetic 2007/06/21 20:04:55 (permalink)
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    Hi, Im in Ireland not the UK so your link is the first i've heard of DAFNE. I'll have a read of it, thanks. I wouldnt be too keen to alter my insulin program drastically without input from the hospital team at the diabetic clinics. From what I know there are lots of brands of insulin out there mixtard is what i've been on for years and it is pretty stable so i don't know if there would be any major benefit to switching to humalog.

    Im on 40 units morning and evening. DAFNE looks a little like another regime where you take a unitard or monotard slow-releasing insulin in the morning and then take 4 more fast-acting injections during the day which conform to your food intake.

    My main worry is not know which supplements if would affect me as a diabetic and how. As i've said i only take some protein basically just to help the muscles recover after a workout.
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    RE: If you're a diabetic 2007/06/22 11:27:08 (permalink)
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    Of course, you'd have to have input from your consultant's team

    as far as supps go, just stick to a quality whey isolate - there will be no need for other supps, base your food around quality low glycaemic carbs
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    RE: If you're a diabetic 2007/06/22 11:36:40 (permalink)
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    Cheers james. Thanks for all the input and ill look more into that DAFNE thing, it looks pretty good.
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    RE: If you're a diabetic 2007/06/22 12:01:24 (permalink)
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    The Whey Institute recommends whey protein for diabetics as well http://www.wheyoflife.org/benefits.cfm#diabetes

    Sorry I can't help further!
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    RE: If you're a diabetic 2007/06/22 12:11:21 (permalink)
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    no thats perfect. im glad some companies take it into account. cheers for the link.
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    RE: If you're a diabetic 2007/06/22 12:16:57 (permalink)
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    Sorted, all the best!
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